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    Hi guys

    what do you know about the Islam Honestly

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    No body cares, K?

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    I know that it sucks a little bit more than any of the other major religions out there. Every religion has extremists but the muslim extremists are the worst. They get butthurt over every single fuckin thing you can imagine. "OMG someone drew my prophet Mooohamid, lemee get all ass hurt over this! arararrghghghghghgHG!!!!!!!!L"

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    the koran can be seen as the continuation of the story that was started in the old testament it is based around 5 pillars but i know one of them is muslims must believe in god and believe that muhamad is his profit most muslims are supposed to give about 2% of their income to charity and there is a split in the religion caused by a dispute between who became the first leader of the religion

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    Prince, for what purpose did you post? You didn't say anything useful, and I believe that some people care. The person who began the thread certainly does.

    I'm afraid I know absolutely nothing about the Islam, but I'd love to learn more about it. Religions interest me greatly.

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    Because every time I post something in connection with Islam, I find that I am ignored and wasting my time. The majority of TS members are interested mostly in Christianity and atheism.

    Anyways, if you want to read good Islamic introductory materials here you go:

    All the Islamic Links of Websites and Articles for Beginners to Islam

    Read the Qur'an online

    The Deen (TV) Show

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    Islam seems much more straightforward than Christianity as a whole.
    Calmatevi, cafonetti. I'm simply increasing my post count. Keep calm & carry on. about.me/ibostonian

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    It is.
    The spider weaves the curtains in the palace of the Caesars;
    the owl calls the watches in the towers of Afrasiab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahometan View Post
    It is.
    Is it?
    La shai'a waqi'on motlaq bal kollon momken.

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    Islam is the true religion
    We can not rule the world more than Lallah

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    Why are some Muslims so quick to resort to violence or murder when their feelings are hurt. Muhammad was a pedophile. He married a 9 year old girl. Just accept the fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YingButNoYang View Post
    I know that it sucks a little bit more than any of the other major religions out there. Every religion has extremists but the muslim extremists are the worst. They get butthurt over every single fuckin thing you can imagine. "OMG someone drew my prophet Mooohamid, lemee get all ass hurt over this! arararrghghghghghgHG!!!!!!!!L"
    Ever notice where most extremists are found? The poor development of certain countries as a whole or certain regions of countries are of course going to lead to an environment where radicalism will grow to a larger scale.

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    Nearly all extremists/radicalists are losers in life, especially athletically or economically, one way or another. They cannot enjoy their lives and they want to act on behalf of God.

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    This topic is extremely complex the fact some people are that quick to jump in and blame all muslims for doing's of one is just wrong, i am not muslim however i have many muslim friend's and have learnt a lot about there religion, and learnt to respect it there was a time i use to blame them for everything too because of osama binladen etc, but yes, that's not fair.
    Islam is honestly the most hated religion out there yet it's one of the biggest, muslims are generally split into two groups shia and sunni, shia are generally more of these extremenists which btw there are very few of, just because 1 man kills 100 people and blames it on his religion doesn't make it true.
    I have a muslim friend who is quite wealthy every single day he prays 5 time's, donates a large majority of his money to the poor i.e. today he gave a homeless man 100 pounds and a large evian bottle of water and a small bag of fruit he repeats this process every day.
    after i read stories about islam it intruiged me it is one of the most complicated religioins in a way so much background to it many beautiful stories and 80% of it is from the bible and torah but the diference is the Qu'ran has never been edited every single one out there has the same information unlike the bible.
    if you want to learn about islam i suggest you youtube "Dr bilal philipps" a great islamic scholar who's very informative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toocutetomute View Post
    This topic is extremely complex the fact some people are that quick to jump in and blame all muslims for doing's of one is just wrong, i am not muslim however i have many muslim friend's and have learnt a lot about there religion, and learnt to respect it there was a time i use to blame them for everything too because of osama binladen etc, but yes, that's not fair.
    Islam is honestly the most hated religion out there yet it's one of the biggest, muslims are generally split into two groups shia and sunni, shia are generally more of these extremenists which btw there are very few of, just because 1 man kills 100 people and blames it on his religion doesn't make it true.
    I have a muslim friend who is quite wealthy every single day he prays 5 time's, donates a large majority of his money to the poor i.e. today he gave a homeless man 100 pounds and a large evian bottle of water and a small bag of fruit he repeats this process every day.
    after i read stories about islam it intruiged me it is one of the most complicated religioins in a way so much background to it many beautiful stories and 80% of it is from the bible and torah but the diference is the Qu'ran has never been edited every single one out there has the same information unlike the bible.
    if you want to learn about islam i suggest you youtube "Dr bilal philipps" a great islamic scholar who's very informative.
    I'm not trying to offend you or your friend or any other Muslim, but there are some major flaws in the Koran. I haven't actually read it, though so I can't say for myself. And, idk what you mean by "edited" but every Christian bible I have seen all shares that same message (Non-Catholic). It may not be the same exact words, but the general message remains the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by takingbackfridaynight View Post
    I'm not trying to offend you or your friend or any other Muslim, but there are some major flaws in the Koran. I haven't actually read it, though so I can't say for myself. And, idk what you mean by "edited" but every Christian bible I have seen all shares that same message (Non-Catholic). It may not be the same exact words, but the general message remains the same.
    You so contradicted yourself and broke the laws of both logic and academic inquiry. If you haven't actually read the Holy Qur'an, then how are you criticizing it? I advise you to read the Qur'an as if you were reading the Bible, because it is the bible of the Muslims; then come back to us with any "flaws". I'm not going to criticize the Bible, either by the way; because if I were to do so, I'd have to do the same with the Qur'an and other religious scriptures which I hold in deep regard.

    If you are interested to read the Qur'an, I recommend (esp as a Catholic) you read Surah 19 (Chapter of Virgin Mary). Visit: www.quran.com and select Surah/Chapter 19) Maryam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkness-Prince View Post
    You so contradicted yourself and broke the laws of both logic and academic inquiry. If you haven't actually read the Holy Qur'an, then how are you criticizing it? I advise you to read the Qur'an as if you were reading the Bible, because it is the bible of the Muslims; then come back to us with any "flaws". I'm not going to criticize the Bible, either by the way; because if I were to do so, I'd have to do the same with the Qur'an and other religious scriptures which I hold in deep regard.

    If you are interested to read the Qur'an, I recommend (esp as a Catholic) you read Surah 19 (Chapter of Virgin Mary). Visit: www.quran.com and select Surah/Chapter 19) Maryam.
    I'm definitely not catholic. And i have to agree with you, i can't really say it for sure unless i read it myself that's why i stated i don't know for sure, but i was speaking of scientific flaws. not spelling errors or whatever else. anyway, thanks I'll make sure to look that up.

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    Urgh. I honestly do not know where you learned or heard that the Qur'an has scientific flaws. The Qur'an is universally acclaimed to be in complete harmony with reality and Modern Science. Have you heard of the saying, "Do not believe everything you hear? Do your own investigation."

    Muslims believe that the Qur'an is the literal word of God as revealed to the prophet Muhammad through the Archangel Gabriel. Many Muslims believe that the Qur'an contains scientific information that would only be discovered by the world in modern times, centuries after their revelation, proving its divine origin. These are claimed to include scientific information pertaining to creation, astronomy, biology, and human reproduction.

    One such claim is based on an interpretation of the passage in the Qur'an which states: "Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were of one piece, then We parted them and we made every living thing of water? Will they not then believe?"[Quran 21:30] Muslims claim that the first part of the verse is referring to the Big Bang and the second part of the verse refers to the fact that all living things are made of water since and water being a necessary component for life. Muslims also believe that the Qur'an also refers to the protective properties of the atmosphere when it says, “We made the sky a preserved and protected roof yet still they turn away from Our Signs.”[Quran 21:32] In addition to this, Muslims believe the Qur'an mentions the rotation and orbit of the Sun and the Moon when it states, "It is He who created the night and the day, and the sun, and the moon; each of them swim along in its rounded course."[Quran 21:33]

    Muslims have cited the following Qur'anic verse as miraculous, "After that (Allah) spread the Earth out (dahaha: from the verb 'daha')" [Quran 79:30]. This verse has been interpreted by many Muslims as foreshadowing the concept that the figure of the Earth has an ellipsoid shape. Kamel Ben Salem's explanation for this is that "the ancient exegetes had earlier explained the Arabic verb (dahaha) by (has flattened it)" but that "the origin of this verb is found in the word (Ud-hiya)," which means "egg of ostrich," thus "the Earth would look like an ostrich’s egg." Rashad Khalifa alternatively translated the verse as: "he made the earth egg-shaped."
    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scienti...n_sacred_texts


    If you like religious dialogues and have all the time in the world, watch this intense 4 hour debate between Dr William Campbell and Dr Zakir Naik: The Qur'an and the Bible in the Light of Science
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk61hslLHlw

    If you like to watch educational documentaries, watch this 3-part series BBC Science and Islam which delves into the history between Islam and medieval science up to the contribution of Muslims to modern science:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvH6dI3CyY4

    The website uses the Islamic scriptures and Modern Science to disprove the Theory of Evolution, for those of you who believe in the literal truth of Creation in the Bible:
    www.evolutiondeceit.com

    The world's leading Islamic creationist and defender of the literal creation in the Qur'an:
    www.harunyahya.com

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    Also check out the cool almost 3-hour documentary by Harun Yahya on the scientific miracles in the Qur'an. In respective order from part 1 to part 4:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXqTC-88eDk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUGbFCuzX1M
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXg455VzcJ8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqByK3AUHBk

    Many of these scientific miracles (that is, scientific facts and phenomena mentioned in the Qur'an before its discovery or settlement by modern science) convinced people all around the world that the Qur'an is the Word of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkness-Prince View Post
    One such claim is based on an interpretation of the passage in the Qur'an which states: "Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were of one piece, then We parted them and we made every living thing of water? Will they not then believe?"[Quran 21:30] Muslims claim that the first part of the verse is referring to the Big Bang and the second part of the verse refers to the fact that all living things are made of water since and water being a necessary component for life. Muslims also believe that the Qur'an also refers to the protective properties of the atmosphere when it says, “We made the sky a preserved and protected roof yet still they turn away from Our Signs.”[Quran 21:32] In addition to this, Muslims believe the Qur'an mentions the rotation and orbit of the Sun and the Moon when it states, "It is He who created the night and the day, and the sun, and the moon; each of them swim along in its rounded course."[Quran 21:33]
    i'm sorry, but is that what is actually believed or is that what someone is accusing? and thank you, again for the links. and the videos.

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