selfharming

[SappyLovesRaven]

YOU want US to suffer just so YOU can be happy and keep us. We think yall don't care because you never see the fake smiles. The subtle hints. Inferiority, being called a coward, all that makes us think no one cares. It isn't our fault that no one shows us they care. Please try to see it from our perspective?

[shinymew]

No one thinks youre inferior. -_- youre assuming things. I can see it from your perspective. One of my strengths is empathy. But its your fault for not reaching out and talking to some one. We are not mind readers, we are humans, some better at reading people. But I'm done explaining my point here. You seem childish still, you'll get over it when you're older and have no choice but to get over yourself and realize there's more to life then sulking in your own pitiful sorrows.

[SappyLovesRaven]

Maybe we're scared people like you will judge us. And as far as explaining your point I see it both ways. I see your point. The only difference is my friends and ex failed their suicides. Each one has had more attempts than hair on my head. Each had some while I knew them. One almost succeeded.. My aunts death was ruled a suicide. I never met her because of it. I've known your side. Because of recent events though I am in their pit now. For the first time in a while I'm happyish again. I'm getting better. I haven't cut in a while. And as for people getting help. Some people CAN'T. Some, like in my instance, their parents find cutters "freaks" and just say "Its a phase" or "You have it easy compared to me when I was your age". Some, like one of my other friends, don't have the money for a shrink.

[AnHonestGuy]

Reporting this thread. It's derailed into pathetic bickering...again. These things always go that way..

No, suicide isn't selfish. No, Masochism isn't selfish. It doesn't take a person who's been in those situations to understand.

Shinymew...you may have lost friends but you haven't experienced it the same way they have. The fact that you consider their actions selfish and you speak of them with near-contempt speaks volumes of your character, however.

[SappyLovesRaven]

Amen. You described my thoughts in a nutshell

[I_Am_Once_Was]

uh, not to be mean but it takes a cutter to understand. You obviously lack experience, and haven't been deep in depression. All cutters think theres someone worse off, because of this the depression gets worse and the feelings are joined by inferiority because we know people like you say "whimp" and "Don't you know that there's starving kids in Africa" and all kinds of shit like that. There are people worse off but because of people like you we cut more. We feel unworthy and weak. We have self control, though, we use it to pick up a blade instead of a gun. Until you can even ATTEMPT to understand us, until you've BEEN through it, don't say we are weak. Every person has different emotional tolerances. Just like one person can sit for down and get a full back, all color tattoo and not shed a tear, yet another person can sit down for a dime sized simple heart shape and cry like their dying, one person can be beat, cussed, starving, raped daily and have a REAL smile every day, but one person can have the perfect life and be tormented by their parents for being gay and they might go kill themselves. Everyone is different. You aren't in their body, their mind, you don't understand how easily they could pick up a gun but they don't. They TRY their HARDEST just to pick up a knife. A blade. Just so they can live another day. Praying to GOD the next day gets better only to see someone say "Ugh don't cut. How do you stop? Um grow some balls. Get the fuck over it. Grow up". Every. Day. Telling someone with depression "Just get over it" is like telling someone who broke both legs "Walk." the day after they had surgery on those legs. "Walk without crutches, rails, or any form of therapy. Just get up and walk you little cry baby."

Err, yeah. Some people can handle pain, some can't. Some people are strong, some are weak. Why shouldn't we use the word 'weak' when it's correct? People tell you about starving kids in Africa so you can gain some fucking perspective and appreciate the things in life that you do have. Don't compare yourself to someone who physically can't walk, either. You've got first world problems.

I don't see any better advice than telling you to get over it. Take up a hobby, go outside and explore. The 'helpful environment' you're looking for is not going to help. You're the person who's going to have to help yourself.

[SappyLovesRaven]

1. I do have a hobby.
2. I live in the panhandle of Texas, if you've ever been here you'd know I CAN'T explore without getting bit by a rattlesnake or eaten by a cougar. Then again you'd enjoy all the whimps getting killed wouldn't you? Oh and you don't know what I'm going through so fuck off.

[I_Am_Once_Was]

I didn't mean to travel into the wilderness, I meant go out and explore the world around you instead of sitting at home on the computer feeling sorry about yourself, remaining forever blind to discovery and opportunity. Grow up.

[Dave]

Tell your parents, school counselor or another trusted adult if someone is hurting themselves or others.

You or your friend can call this hotline for information or help: 800-DONT-CUT

Self-Injury:
http://www.selfinjury.com/ (S.A.F.E.)
800-DONT-CUT