Why the Devil is bad.

[L-u]

The Devil punishes people who have sinned.
Therefore he is an evil person and an evil creature with an evil heart and evil intent.
Bad people should not be punished, that's why Christians always talk about what they find to be an abomination.
I mean, geez, who wants rapists and murderers to go to Hell?
They should all be in Heaven right?

[Stridar]

The devil does not punish. He causes man to sin.

[L-u]

Right and the fact that God gave man free-choice to do whatever he pleases, it's STILL the Devil's fault.
Do men ever own up to being morons at all?

[Stridar]

It's not the devil fault. It's mans fault. but yes then again it is the devils fault.

God is forgiving anyway if you are sincere about how you feel.

[Dman013]

The devil entices, but man has the option of sinning or not sinning. It's just that simple. And the Devil doesn't punish people. God punishes sin. The devil is an angel that wanted to be God, Lucifer, and God tossed him out of heaven.

Another thing I want to point out about Satan.

He doesn't run hell. He doesn't punish people in hell. Satan himself will be punished in hell, because of trying to BE God. Which was stupid because God created him in the first place. Hell was CREATED for Satan and his followers (other fallen angels) its original purpose was not meant for humans. But because of the fall of man, that's where punishment is carried out.

After sinning against a Holy God, one sin, no matter what it is, is a good enough reason to send people to hell. Let me explain what I mean by that.

God is perfection, He is the purest, the holiest, the "Highest you can get on the totem poll" So to speak. He did not create evil. He can't because He is all good. Now by being all good He must punish sin.

Punishing sin is not evil, it's just, not punishing sin in fact would be evil. In the same way sending a convicted murderer to jail isn't evil, it's just.

By sinning, you have violated God's law, and that is enough to have a person fo to hell to pay for their sins.

"For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life" Romans 6:23

"For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23

But God loves you, and the rest of the world for that matter, to give you an escape plan. (: I'll tell you about it if you'd like to hear about it.

[black_veil_brides_fan]

^^ wow you know alot. i believe God has called you for this!

[Dman013]

Haha thank you bvbf, but really I haven't even scratched the surface yet. Thank you though, I really appreciate the compliment (:

[Stridar]

God has no beginning or end.
Satan has a beginning.
What side do we pick? The wrong or the right?
You're either with God or against.
That's one way of looking at it.
Another way would be seeing as a person as in the middle not decided yet.
As far as punishing goes god is forgiving and he forgives more then he punishes, those who say my God isn't just is an insult.

[Dman013]

I agree with Stridar to the extent of God forgives more than He punishes. He doesn't LIKE punishing people, if He did...lol it'd be ALOT worse than it is now lemme tell ya. But He made it possible for you to spend eternity with Him in heaven. And you can't deny His love is real, until you have experianced it. (:

[black_veil_brides_fan]

Haha thank you bvbf, but really I haven't even scratched the surface yet. Thank you though, I really appreciate the compliment (:

ur welcome but i was tlkn to a friend, im bi and i act on it. now i got ppl telln me God hates me, im goin to hell....if God didnt want ppl bein gay or bi, y did he create it cuz ur born with it.

[Stridar]

People have no fear of god.
These are the times we live in.

[black_veil_brides_fan]

ppl do fear God actuatly. but thts wen they dnt kno God.

[Stridar]

ur welcome but i was tlkn to a friend, im bi and i act on it. now i got ppl telln me God hates me, im goin to hell....if God didnt want ppl bein gay or bi, y did he create it cuz ur born with it.

Homosexual people should not be judged by men. God made them that way whether it's genetics or conditioning. God will judge. And yes it is a sin.
It is wrong. Why? I don't think man can answer that fully. You should know in your heart why it's wrong.

[Dman013]

Well, to explain, and I hope and pray you can understand this.

#1 God doesn't hate you, He hates sin, not you. But if you don't believe in Christ and His death and Resurrection as God's Son, your a slave to sin. But if you accept Him as Saviour, then those chains of sin are broken. Now that doesn't mean your not going to ever sin again. But your desires change drastically if you continue to seek God out.

#2 you only go to hell if you don't accept Christ as your Saviour. You can never lose your salvation once you have it, no matter what sin you commit God will forgive you. Now that doesn't mean go around sinning saying oh it's ok!!! But you live as Christian, not just say I love Jesus and leave it at that. I Suggest you read James on a short, practical way of living a Christian life with faith and doing good things for others. Use an NIV version, or NASB, don't try and use KJV translation lol....unless you have a major in old English, dont.

#3 Saying no to Lady Gaga, no you weren't born that way. As in James, "You have not been tempted beyond that which is common to man, but God is faithful, who will offer a way of escape."

God knows that you get tempted by things, and He ALWAYS offers a way out. God did not create homosexuality, its the result of mans sinful nature, as a result of Adam and Eves mistake.

No matter what people say, I promise you, your not born with it. God will not let you be tempted beyond what YOU can personally handle. And also, God does not tempt, it's impossible for Him to tempt anyone. He may give you tests, but not temptaions. That the hearts doing. As also in the Bible "The heart is deciteful above all things and desperatly wicked, who can know it?"

[Dman013]

To help Stridar out, God says that's it un-natural and an abomination to what God created. Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve lol. It's just as simple as, God made W for M, as a helper and companion, not a cook or maid as some men take it. But as a companion. The perversion of M on M of W on W, is just disgusting to God because it's not what He intended. But no matter what you do, God will forgive you, He will READILY and willingy forgive you because of the vast, imeasurable love He has for you. (:

[black_veil_brides_fan]

bible says men shouldnt leave leave the purpose of women but its how we were BORN. we cant help, its not fair to us gays and bis if we go to hell for how we are born. we cant control it. God made us the way he wants. if he doesnt like gays ir bis he shoyldnt have made us tht way

[Dman013]

Exactly, He didn't make you that way. Gay and Bi aren't a condition your born with like a disease.

[black_veil_brides_fan]

we are born with it. we absolutly cnt help it! yes there are ppl out there who wish they wasnt gay or bi. scientificly u CAN b born gay, religously no u cnt. u cnt arrugh with science. but now evn scientist r sayn there is an almighty presance. if God really made us and doesnt like gays then there something wrong and gays and bis have to suffer for it! we really cant help! its not fair to us

[black_veil_brides_fan]

its not fair knowing tht me and my friends can go to hell for it. its how we were born, if we could help it trust me probably no one would b gay God made us he made gays.

[Dman013]

God didn't make sin. Satan introduced sin into the universe when He decided to be to try and be God. Satan enticed adam and eve, and they caused the human race to fall into a pit of sin. So God didn't make sin. That means God didn't make gays or bis, that means your not born with it. :\