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    Quote Originally Posted by naughtydyana View Post
    The Big Bang can't be tested as there are no known ways to create matter from energy, which is what the BB supposedly did.
    That's a really stupid thing to say
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    I honestly don't get why theists have a problem with the Big Bang. Its pretty much an easy way for them to point to God anyway. God said let there be light: Bang. The universe.

    Plus where do people get this notion that the theory states that universe originated ex nihilio. As an atheist, I simply don't know what caused the event, I just do not think it was a God. Thats all. Why is that such a big fucking deal anyway?
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    ive heard a worse theory my an ex.

    she says "dinosaurs are made up by the science people to discredit god"

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    No no she has it all wrong, the fossils were put there by Iehova as a test of faith.

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    Gonna debunk every single persons opinion or fact now and say.. Evolution from apes is logic. Obviously we did. Also, the big bang did happen since some guys in Nasa say they found traces of it left over from when it happened.

    Also, for all that faith and stuff, You honestly can't think there is a God. Sure, some dude 2,000 years ago cures people, voodoo shit. Also, this universe is a just a bubble amongst other bubbles in infinite dark matter. Since nothing expands in nothing, everything is infinite. Only Chuck Norris can play marbles with the universes.

    Also, Pi is exactly 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frog_Eater View Post
    Hollow Earth is worst
    You think that's bad, check this out: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat Earth News. One Hundred Proofs Earth is Not a Globe, Number 34
    If the Earth were a globe, there certainly would be -- if we could imagine the thing, to be peopled all around-'antipodes:' 'people who,' says the dictionary, 'living exactly on the opposite side of the globe to ourselves, having their fee [sic] opposite to ours' - people who are HANGING DOWN, HEAD DOWNWARDS while we are standing head up? But since the theory allows to travel to those parts of the earth where the people are said to hand head downward, and still to fancy ourselves to be heads upwards, and our friends whom we have left behind us to be heads downwards, it follows that the WHOLE THING IS A MYTH - A DREAM - A DELUSION - and a snare, and, instead of there being any evidence at all in this direction to substantiate this popular theory, it is plain proof that the Earth is Not A Globe.
    Well...I'm convinced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PathOfTheRighteousMan View Post
    Gonna debunk every single persons opinion or fact now and say.. Evolution from apes is logic. Obviously we did. Also, the big bang did happen since some guys in Nasa say they found traces of it left over from when it happened.

    Also, for all that faith and stuff, You honestly can't think there is a God. Sure, some dude 2,000 years ago cures people, voodoo shit. Also, this universe is a just a bubble amongst other bubbles in infinite dark matter. Since nothing expands in nothing, everything is infinite. Only Chuck Norris can play marbles with the universes.

    Also, Pi is exactly 3.
    To even suggest that it was "voodoo" makes your entire case invalid.....














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    Quote Originally Posted by MyNameIsNotBrad View Post
    To even suggest that it was "voodoo" makes your entire case invalid.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdEatYouAlive View Post

    What's up with the facepalm?














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    Quote Originally Posted by MyNameIsNotBrad View Post
    What's up with the facepalm?
    The facepalm was a direct result of me reading what you wrote. So instead of asking why I facepalmed, ask yourself how you fail so massively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PathOfTheRighteousMan View Post
    the big bang did happen since some guys in Nasa say they found traces of it left over from when it happened.
    OMG THEN IT MUST BE TRUE!!!!



    Quote Originally Posted by MeXMyselfXChrysta View Post
    Ok. I believe in evolution. My father does not. He thinks some people evolved from apes and some from "God" and his creation.
    He's double dipping?

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    Fyi, this debate cannot and will not be settled.

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    There is no debate. Evolution is fact, if you disagree you are wrong. End of story.

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    Evolution is a theory. by definition, it is not fact, nor has it been proven

    and i might add that the theory itself is flawed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MUSE-683 View Post
    Evolution is a theory. by definition, it is not fact, nor has it been proven
    The exact mechanism by which evolution occurs is a theory, that it does occur is a fact.

    Do you know what theory means in the scientific context?

    and i might add that the theory itself is flawed.
    Oh please do elaborate, this should be good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikias View Post
    Oh please do elaborate, this should be good.
    Oh, it won't be.

    but my point is that a species evolves when it cannot survive as is, so needs a change. a change that takes, millions of years. If you need to change in order to survive, you don't have millions of years.

    although at the same point, I'd also like to point out, that as a high schooler, a public schooler at that, I may be missing something, I am no expert on evolution. I think bottom line, there isn't conclusive evidence to prove, or disprove evolution, which is why I said that it's a debate that will go no where. Anyway, I have no intention to argue this much further, becuase neither of our views will change here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MUSE-683 View Post
    Oh, it won't be.

    but my point is that a species evolves when it cannot survive as is, so needs a change. a change that takes, millions of years. If you need to change in order to survive, you don't have millions of years.
    Not at all how it works. Genetic mutations happen. Sometimes they improve the animals ability to survive in their environment. When that is the case that animal is more successful and that mutation thrives.

    although at the same point, I'd also like to point out, that as a high schooler, a public schooler at that, I may be missing something, I am no expert on evolution. I think bottom line, there isn't conclusive evidence to prove, or disprove evolution, which is why I said that it's a debate that will go no where. Anyway, I have no intention to argue this much further, becuase neither of our views will change here.
    There is conclusive evidence and it has been proven. The fact that animals evolve is, just that, a fact. How it works is what is theory, not whether it happens. If your view doesn't change then it is not because you have a differing opinion but because you are being willfully ignorant.

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    are you saying that evolution exists as means for slight changes, not the story of how humans came to be? because I can see the evolution mechanism as making adaptations to help out a species, but I don't believe that it creates entirely different species.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MUSE-683 View Post
    are you saying that evolution exists as means for slight changes, not the story of how humans came to be? because I can see the evolution mechanism as making adaptations to help out a species, but I don't believe that it creates entirely different species.
    Ok well your belief is incorrect. And again, evolution doesn't occur to help out species. That's not how it works. It's just a process of change over time, and enough changes means a new species.

    Humans evolved from more primitive animals, this is not an opinion or a theory, this is a fact.

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