11-03-2009, 04:02 PM
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A baby then, after being born, and before you make the same response again, re,e,ber that it's considered a fetus right up until them moment it crosses the birth canal. Where do you draw the line then?
And agian, I usually support stem cell research for saving lives, but putting aborted stemcells into beauty products is to far.
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Obviously you're morally against it which I understand. But why exactly?
The reason why I don't have a problem with it is because no matter how old the fetus is it's dead already.
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11-03-2009, 04:05 PM
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So if after you died I were to take you apart cell by cell and use you in beauty froducts, you'd be okay with that?
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Sure. Why do I care? I'm dead.
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11-03-2009, 04:08 PM
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Fetus =/= fully developed human being that is conscious about it's own existence.
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Toddler =/= fully developed human being that is conscious about it's own existence
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11-03-2009, 04:10 PM
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Toddler =/= fully developed human being that is conscious about it's own existence
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I don't believe anyone in their right mind would oppose using live toddlers in makeup, Frank.
...What's your point?
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11-03-2009, 04:11 PM
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I don't believe anyone in their right mind would oppose using live toddlers in makeup, Frank.
...What's your point?
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Beat me to it.
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11-03-2009, 04:14 PM
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I don't believe anyone in their right mind would oppose using live toddlers in makeup, Frank.
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I agree with this.
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...What's your point?
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My point is that his way of putting the fetus existence as "not a fully developed" human being that had not achieved self-awareness could be applied to a great deal of the population and is thus a shitty definition for the type of point he was attempting to make.
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11-03-2009, 04:19 PM
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Toddler =/= fully developed human being that is conscious about it's own existence
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Agreed, and I'm not the only one on the thread anymore.
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11-03-2009, 04:20 PM
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Foetus' consist most of stem cells, new-born babies and toddlers much less, hence why we use the foetus for things like beauty products and surgery for stuff...
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11-03-2009, 04:23 PM
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Foetus' consist most of stem cells, new-born babies and toddlers much less, hence why we use the foetus for things like beauty products and surgery for stuff...
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I'm not arguing that a fetus = a toddler in the real world. I'm simply mocking his definition for claiming why it is ok to use a fetus in such instances.
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11-03-2009, 04:23 PM
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I think we all knew what he meant. Let's not get dramatic.
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11-03-2009, 04:24 PM
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I'm not arguing that a fetus = a toddler in the real world. I'm simply mocking his definition for claiming why it is ok to use a fetus in such instances.
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I'm just pointing out my disappointment that small children that have been born cannot be used in cosmetic products 
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11-03-2009, 04:33 PM
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My point is that his way of putting the fetus existence as "not a fully developed" human being that had not achieved self-awareness could be applied to a great deal of the population and is thus a shitty definition for the type of point he was attempting to make.
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It was sarcasm. It was pretty clear what you meant.
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11-03-2009, 04:38 PM
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I would like to order some fetus facial cream....
boy that sounds so terrible in SO many ways. D:
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11-03-2009, 04:41 PM
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I think we all knew what he meant. Let's not get dramatic.
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Whose getting dramatic? I'm being mocking.
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I'm just pointing out my disappointment that small children that have been born cannot be used in cosmetic products 
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And impose upon my home cooked recipes? Don't you dare!
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It was sarcasm. It was pretty clear what you meant.
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Nice cover up. 
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11-03-2009, 04:42 PM
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And impose upon my home cooked recipes? Don't you dare!
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If you don't like it, then move to Russia, commie
pfft, the nerve standing in the way of corporate greed.
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11-03-2009, 04:43 PM
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Nice cover up. 
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No cover up. Toddlers are obviously not fully developed, and that specification lead to a logical fallacy.
When I said "...What's your point", I thought I was clearly emphasizing my approval of the murdering of toddlers for my Maybelline foundation.
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11-03-2009, 05:02 PM
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So if after you died I were to take you apart cell by cell and use you in beauty froducts, you'd be okay with that?
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...your question is if someone would be ok with having something done to their body, AFTER their dead. A dead person is incapable of caring what you do with their body. Besides, if anything I'd rather have something useful done with my body then just have it buried in a box to rot. If I'm done eating a steak and you wanna chop up what's left and feed it to your dog why do I give a shit? It's not a waste, I was just gonna throw it out anyway.
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11-03-2009, 05:02 PM
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Nice cover up. 
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Your point was clear.
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11-03-2009, 05:09 PM
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...your question is if someone would be ok with having something done to their body, AFTER their dead. A dead person is incapable of caring what you do with their body. Besides, if anything I'd rather have something useful done with my body then just have it buried in a box to rot. If I'm done eating a steak and you wanna chop up what's left and feed it to your dog why do I give a shit? It's not a waste, I was just gonna throw it out anyway.
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Let's not get in to animal treatment in the meat industry here, I could go on for a year about the horrors of the meat and poultry industries in this country, and that's without getting help from my vegetarian friends!(fyi, I myself am not a vegetarian)
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11-03-2009, 05:18 PM
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They use the unwanted (waste) parts of animals now and reuse it. (Obviously it is clean and wasn't pulled out of a dumpster). Apparently it's to allow poor people who can't afford to eat meat to eat..meatish products.
You can basically get a Chicken Kiev now at a competative price. Only 40% chicken. :]
My point here was that taking waste products and using them for development is a good thing. We waste too much as it is.
And like Vodka has said. Companies use animal products; such as shark, in their make up. I am pretty sure however the Shark wasn't found dead and being used as a waste product. With all these aborted fetuses etc we can reduce the amount of animal killing and recyle what we already have instead of throwing it away.
I mean fetuses aren't buried usually. They're thrown in the bin with all the other waste body parts.
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