10-30-2009, 09:29 AM
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Smart-ass Lord Mandelson and his plans to disconnect torrеnt-users
To Lord Mandelson's Attention.
I strongly disagree with Lord Mandelson's proposed policy on dealing with online piracy. His attitude in tackling this problem, if it needs to be tackled at all, is wrong, and he oversees crucial advantages of the so-called piracy.
I shall not dwell on the reasons that have been publicly expressed already - breaching human rights by disconnecting people from internet; or the fact that there are hundreds of ways to hack wireless networks, download files illegally and throw suspicions on an innocent person; although these arguments are quite strong themselves, and need to be addressed.
I believe that file-sharing is a human right. If people are allowed to share arts, by visiting galleries, museums and exhibitions, why can't they share music, movies and video-games? Surely, the producers suffer financial losses. However, all these years that file-sharing has existed, producers still had high profits, if their products deserved them. There always have been, and will be, people, who go to the cinemas and buy licensed disks. There will always be people, who say "no" to piracy, deeming it dishonest. It is their right to do so. Those people will always bring money to the producers. A good example here would be X-Men Origins: Wolverine, a movie, which leaked on-line about a month before the initial release. Despite the fact that an estimated 1.5 million people saw it before the release, the movie was a financial success.
How much money the intellectual property brings, only matters to the producers, not those, who produce, but those, who invest money in it. People, who really create movies, games and music, are usually paid at fixed rate, so profit is not vital to them.
I am not suggesting to apply communistic principles. Let them pursue profits, but people must have free access to their works.
So many people earn money, only enough to pay for the rent, food and necessities. They can't afford to pay more money to listen to licensed music or watch licensed DVDs. If you deprive them of file-sharing, you will cut off their opportunity to develop and learn something new. All intellectual property should be accessible similar to books in libraries. File-sharing programmes are the libraries of the 21st century. If Lord Mandelson's plan succeeds, it will be dark times for Britain, and believe me, you will see surge in crime amongst youth in Britain. Of course, Facebook does great job in keeping potentially aggressive people at home, but if tomorrow, one of those will not be able to download the new "call of duty" and will be disconnected, you'll see that person on streets, bored. God knows what a bored aggressive youth can do! You wish to see that in the UK, Honourable Lord?
I hope not.
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10-30-2009, 11:37 AM
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Torrenting is just another word for communism.
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10-30-2009, 11:50 AM
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lol wat
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10-30-2009, 02:55 PM
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Alexandraru why are you so obsessed with the uk and what gos on here?
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10-30-2009, 03:54 PM
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10-30-2009, 04:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jackthevillain
Alexandraru why are you so obsessed with the uk and what gos on here?
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Because I find British politics interesting, of course.
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10-30-2009, 04:41 PM
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I kniw butyou should do stuff about Russia more than Britain as your Russian not British
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10-30-2009, 04:45 PM
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Maybe, although I get all my Russian news from Russian sites or tv, so I can't really cite sources.
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10-30-2009, 04:45 PM
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YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD A CAR.
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10-30-2009, 05:08 PM
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ok fair does alexandraru
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10-30-2009, 07:05 PM
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Quote:
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YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD A CAR.
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WRONG, BITCH!
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10-30-2009, 07:15 PM
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Sounds like the OP's been stealing off record companies like an online pikey and is worried about his internet being stopped.
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10-30-2009, 08:19 PM
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Anyone else wonder if alexandraru has some sort of virus when he comes in here =P (bad pun)
Na you are very welcome here.
Music could do with being harder to earn money making the people work for the cash rather then use computer software to change their voice and to mime to those they steal money off. Make only the good earn fuck loads and the rest be modestly paid.
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lol, chalk up another under the win column for you! xD
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10-31-2009, 02:53 AM
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"I believe that file-sharing is a human right. If people are allowed to share arts, by visiting galleries, museums and exhibitions, why can't they share music, movies and video-games?"
I don't think you're allowed to walk out of those places with things tucked under your arm and as for libraries you don't walk out with ownership of the books you read .
You could compare those places you mentioned to Radio or Music programs they share music with you without you owning it yourself.
If internet access was a human right then schools colleges and parents would be in violation of those rights every day .
Just pay for music and movies you tight C
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10-31-2009, 05:16 AM
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i fink sum1 will find sum way round it s dont worry
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10-31-2009, 06:09 AM
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Copyright infringement is illegal in the UK. Cut the file-sharing human rights crap pls.
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10-31-2009, 02:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cr0nu5
Copyright infringement is illegal in the UK. Cut the file-sharing human rights crap pls.
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The only criminal part is the distribution. The downloading is nothing but a breach of contract which is a purely civil case and not criminal.
Source? College teacher, ex legal advisor to a record label.
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10-31-2009, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Endemoniada
The only criminal part is the distribution. The downloading is nothing but a breach of contract which is a purely civil case and not criminal.
Source? College teacher, ex legal advisor to a record label.
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Whether you get fines or prison time doesnt change the fact that it is breaking the law.
Ask him if the contract is legally binding.
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Last edited by Cr0nu5 : 10-31-2009 at 02:34 PM.
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10-31-2009, 05:49 PM
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Quote:
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Whether you get fines or prison time doesnt change the fact that it is breaking the law.
Ask him if the contract is legally binding.
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It's not. All things considered, the letter of the law says there is no applicable penalty other than losing the copy you obtained. All of the illegality under British law is in the distribution.
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11-07-2009, 06:49 PM
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Fuck those fat rich bastards!
******** must be legalized!
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