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The_13th
03-09-2009, 04:37 PM
I was disappointed.

TheElementofOne
03-09-2009, 05:05 PM
Why? Its way better than The Dark Knight imo.

BTW nice job on making another Watchmen thread.

The_13th
03-09-2009, 07:07 PM
^you ask why.

when I walked out of cinema in Austria on the 14th of July, I said to my girlfriend: Wow, that was an awesome movie!" and she agreed.

when I walked out of IMAX-cinema in the UK on the 6th of March, I said to some ugly 40-year-old black woman who had been sitting next to me: This movie turned out to be an overanticipated shit!"
and she said: "Damn right, hun!"

P.S. the fact that I had an old ugly black woman next to me instead of a nice girl has (in this case) no importance. It was the movie I was disappointed at.

TheElementofOne
03-09-2009, 07:12 PM
i dont care who you saw the fucking movie with or where you saw it, i asked why you thought it was a disappointment.

Omelettes
03-09-2009, 07:49 PM
Why? Its way better than The Dark Knight imo.
What does that have to do with anything? Sure, it was better, but it was still disappointing.

The_13th
03-10-2009, 01:51 PM
i dont care who you saw the fucking movie with or where you saw it, i asked why you thought it was a disappointment.

This movie turned out to be an overanticipated shit!

if that's not enough for you.

I don't say it's a terrible movie, but my expectations were higher. I can't say I really enjoyed the movie; I had a good time watching it, but not a great one.

Thriving_Ivory
03-10-2009, 02:00 PM
I don't mind long films...if their ENTERTAINING. This unfortunately, wasn't.

Remnants
03-10-2009, 03:13 PM
I was not disappointed.

BerryFresh
03-10-2009, 06:19 PM
I want to see it. But I want to read the book or whatever first. :shrug; I'll probably just wait till its out on DVD and rent it.

watchayakan
03-10-2009, 06:31 PM
Great movie. All of the underlying themes kept me entertained easily. I need to see it again.

XmurderXchaosX
03-12-2009, 01:32 AM
I liked it.

Rhysie_boy
03-12-2009, 05:53 AM
hell yes man watchmen was great it was as close to the graphib novel as they could get :P:P

amorphous
03-12-2009, 07:24 PM
You can't expect them to be able to capture the novel in a movie. I think Snyder put forth a real, genuine effort but the goal just wasn't attainable. I wonder if those who had no prior knowledge of watchmen found it confusing.

TheElementofOne
03-12-2009, 09:36 PM
You can't expect them to be able to capture the novel in a movie. I think Snyder put forth a real, genuine effort but the goal just wasn't attainable. I wonder if those who had no prior knowledge of watchmen found it confusing.

my friend never read the GN but he thought it was freakin amazing.

GirlNextDoor15
03-29-2009, 03:07 PM
The Dark Knight was badass. Watchmen was just bad.It was horrible! WAAYYY too long, took like 2 and half hours to just get to the point, little action, very confusing in the beginning. It was also boring, and the sex scene made me feel like I was watching **** or something. What was the fucking point of making that movie? I also didn't like the characters, considering they were boring as well, and not even superheroes or anything. They were just like the bad guys. WTF? That movie was complete shit.

deagled
03-29-2009, 03:48 PM
I liked the movie itself, but was dissapointed I had to look at a big smurfin' blue penis. And to those who said it was better than the Dark Knight, what is wrong with you?

TheElementofOne
03-29-2009, 04:10 PM
The Dark Knight was badass. Watchmen was just bad.It was horrible! WAAYYY too long, took like 2 and half hours to just get to the point, little action, very confusing in the beginning. It was also boring, and the sex scene made me feel like I was watching **** or something. What was the fucking point of making that movie? I also didn't like the characters, considering they were boring as well, and not even superheroes or anything. They were just like the bad guys. WTF? That movie was complete shit.

its official. youre retarded.

I liked the movie itself, but was dissapointed I had to look at a big smurfin' blue penis. And to those who said it was better than the Dark Knight, what is wrong with you?

your opinion has now been deemed shit.

these are the kind of people that dont like Watchmen and i'm not surprised. Stupid people dont get a smart film.

AceKevin
03-29-2009, 04:15 PM
I didn't like it much beyond the very child-like adulation of seeing the characters I love portrayed on the screen. I wasn't ok with the new ending, and the gore and sex were just a little out of place. Some of the acting was spot-on.

As a movie on its own merits, I dug it, though.

deagled
03-29-2009, 04:33 PM
its official. youre retarded.



your opinion has now been deemed shit.

these are the kind of people that dont like Watchmen and i'm not surprised. Stupid people dont get a smart film.

I DID like the movie, can't you read? I simply didn't like looking at a CGI penis. What's wrong with that? Did YOU like looking at it?

AceKevin
03-29-2009, 04:54 PM
I DID like the movie, can't you read? I simply didn't like looking at a CGI penis. What's wrong with that? Did YOU like looking at it?

I know at least a dozen people who were neutral about it. Some people are mature enough to accept the existence of the male genitalia. I for one loved looking at it.

TheElementofOne
03-29-2009, 06:40 PM
I DID like the movie, can't you read? I simply didn't like looking at a CGI penis. What's wrong with that? Did YOU like looking at it?

if you were fixated on a CGI penis you should ask yourself why you are.

I didn't like it much beyond the very child-like adulation of seeing the characters I love portrayed on the screen. I wasn't ok with the new ending, and the gore and sex were just a little out of place. Some of the acting was spot-on.

As a movie on its own merits, I dug it, though.

the violence and sex seemed perfect for the overall theme of the movie skewering the superhero archetypes we've all come to love. Moore hated superheroes so yeah i understood why Snyder raised the gore, violence and sex.

GirlNextDoor15
03-29-2009, 06:47 PM
its official. youre retarded.



your opinion has now been deemed shit.

these are the kind of people that dont like Watchmen and i'm not surprised. Stupid people dont get a smart film.
You're the one that's retarded considering you're too much of a dumbass to figure out that we're reviewing the MOVIE itself, not the opinions of the people who watched it. You're fucking pathetic. Yeah, how dare I not like a movie that you obviousley enjoyed. :rolleyes:

TheElementofOne
03-29-2009, 07:36 PM
You're the one that's retarded considering you're too much of a dumbass to figure out that we're reviewing the MOVIE itself, not the opinions of the people who watched it. You're fucking pathetic. Yeah, how dare I not like a movie that you obviousley enjoyed. :rolleyes:

how dare you be a vegetable during an engaging movie that clearly asks the viewer to do more than just sit there. Fine, review the movie, but youre stupid for thinking its a bad movie cause it was too long, not enough action and everyone was bad cause you obviously didnt get it. so yeah, youre fucking retarded.

Innocent_Succubus
03-30-2009, 01:05 AM
I didn't read the Graphic Novel before it came out, because that has a tendency to ruin perfectly good movies for me as I'm a terrible nitpicker. However, the movie has inspired me to go read it.

I really liked the movie, it had a few moments where it dragged a little, but it was very good overall.
The acting was amazing in my opinion,and the CGI great.

Captain_Beefheart
03-30-2009, 01:20 AM
If you're going to be a "you don't get it" elitist, then please don't do it about the fucking Watchmen, that's just embarassing.

AwesomeDuck
03-30-2009, 01:39 AM
If you're going to be a "you don't get it" elitist, then please don't do it about the fucking Watchmen, that's just embarassing.You just don't get "you don't get it:" elitism :sadshake:

TheElementofOne
03-30-2009, 01:38 PM
You just don't get "you don't get it:" elitism :sadshake:

:werd:

AceKevin
03-30-2009, 01:50 PM
I didn't read the Graphic Novel before it came out, because that has a tendency to ruin perfectly good movies for me as I'm a terrible nitpicker. However, the movie has inspired me to go read it.

I really liked the movie, it had a few moments where it dragged a little, but it was very good overall.
The acting was amazing in my opinion,and the CGI great.

Zach, I don't know if you'll read this, but this is exactly what I was talking about.

Wallet
03-30-2009, 01:56 PM
i think i would have enjoyed it more if i had read the graphic novel before seeing the movie, because it seemed like there were some things that i was supposed to have known before watching the movie so i could fill the gaps

that being said im going to purchase the graphic novel read it then watch watchmen again before i form any sort of opinion on the movie

airpainter_
03-30-2009, 04:17 PM
I little bit. I was expecting more action, but the effects were great... :shrug:

Innocent_Succubus
03-30-2009, 06:47 PM
Zach, I don't know if you'll read this, but this is exactly what I was talking about.

I'm trying to figure out if this is a bad thing or a good thing. D;

deagled
03-30-2009, 07:24 PM
I know at least a dozen people who were neutral about it. Some people are mature enough to accept the existence of the male genitalia. I for one loved looking at it.

Well, I'm not mature enough to. I mean, in Zack and Miri or Forgetting Sarah Marshall I can deal with it, because they keep it brief, and it looks real. In this, I didn't know if I should be amused or disgusted [I landed on amused] I just can't have a blue penis on screen and not be atleast a little distracted.


if you were fixated on a CGI penis you should ask yourself why you are.

Fixated.... No. A little amused, a little distracted..... yes. You just can't accept that not everyone can be mature enough to ignore a blue wonka. Did it detract from the movie.... No. Was it neccessary.... No.

TheElementofOne
03-31-2009, 12:00 AM
Well, I'm not mature enough to. I mean, in Zack and Miri or Forgetting Sarah Marshall I can deal with it, because they keep it brief, and it looks real. In this, I didn't know if I should be amused or disgusted [I landed on amused] I just can't have a blue penis on screen and not be atleast a little distracted.




Fixated.... No. A little amused, a little distracted..... yes. You just can't accept that not everyone can be mature enough to ignore a blue wonka. Did it detract from the movie.... No. Was it neccessary.... No.

read the GN.

oh and why the hell would a God need to wear pants?

deagled
03-31-2009, 04:20 PM
a] What's a GN....

b] To hide his weewee.

Innocent_Succubus
03-31-2009, 04:27 PM
a] What's a GN....

b] To hide his weewee.

Graphic Novel.

And he's pretty much a fucking god, with the ability to grow his body to any size at will, wearing pants would just be a nuisance I would imagine.

deagled
03-31-2009, 04:30 PM
oh... I'll check that out, right now I'm reading the Wanted graphic novel. Not dissapointed, but totally different then the movie. And can't he make God-pants that can grow to be any size.... OK, nevermind....

AceKevin
03-31-2009, 07:13 PM
I'm trying to figure out if this is a bad thing or a good thing. D;

I was telling him the movie, though not great, would at least get people to read the comic (not graphic novel! :mad: ).

TheElementofOne
03-31-2009, 09:01 PM
I was telling him the movie, though not great, would at least get people to read the comic (not graphic novel! :mad: ).

im too used to calling it a graphic novel.

Innocent_Succubus
03-31-2009, 09:51 PM
I was telling him the movie, though not great, would at least get people to read the comic (not graphic novel! :mad: ).

Ah, gotcha. :]
I'm actually slightly sad that until the movie was in the works that I'd never heard of the comic.
Especially when I've heard nothing but good things about the comic.

GirlNextDoor15
04-01-2009, 08:47 PM
how dare you be a vegetable during an engaging movie that clearly asks the viewer to do more than just sit there. Fine, review the movie, but youre stupid for thinking its a bad movie cause it was too long, not enough action and everyone was bad cause you obviously didnt get it. so yeah, youre fucking retarded.
Last time I checked, you were supposed to "sit there" while the movie was playing.
Lmao what the hell is wrong with you? That's your brilliant reason for thinking I'm retarded? Because I disliked a movie because it was boring and didn't have enough action? What other reason is there to not like a movie?

TheElementofOne
04-02-2009, 01:51 AM
Last time I checked, you were supposed to "sit there" while the movie was playing.
Lmao what the hell is wrong with you? That's your brilliant reason for thinking I'm retarded? Because I disliked a movie because it was boring and didn't have enough action? What other reason is there to not like a movie?

:facepalm:

Innocent_Succubus
04-02-2009, 02:10 AM
Last time I checked, you were supposed to "sit there" while the movie was playing.
Lmao what the hell is wrong with you? That's your brilliant reason for thinking I'm retarded? Because I disliked a movie because it was boring and didn't have enough action? What other reason is there to not like a movie?

I'd say he called you a retard because you apparently missed the whole point of the movie.
Which is sad, because it's not a particularly hard point to get.

Also, LAWL if you thought it was supposed to be an action movie.

TheElementofOne
04-02-2009, 12:21 PM
:werd:

twisted-justice
04-02-2009, 01:39 PM
^you ask why.

when I walked out of cinema in Austria on the 14th of July, I said to my girlfriend: Wow, that was an awesome movie!" and she agreed.

when I walked out of IMAX-cinema in the UK on the 6th of March, I said to some ugly 40-year-old black woman who had been sitting next to me: This movie turned out to be an overanticipated shit!"
and she said: "Damn right, hun!"

P.S. the fact that I had an old ugly black woman next to me instead of a nice girl has (in this case) no importance. It was the movie I was disappointed at.

There are black people is Austria?:eek2:

a_briggey
04-02-2009, 04:12 PM
personally i loved it(:

GirlNextDoor15
04-03-2009, 12:36 AM
I'd say he called you a retard because you apparently missed the whole point of the movie.
Which is sad, because it's not a particularly hard point to get.

Also, LAWL if you thought it was supposed to be an action movie.
OMG wow. I didn't miss the whole point of the movie. I got confused on the parts when they were kind of introducing the characters, the old group and the new group. Also, yes, while I didn't believe that movie would be the next Terminator movie, I did expect it to have a little action (aka something interesting). Shame on me for actually thinking that something entertaining would happen in the movie :rolleyes:

GirlNextDoor15
04-03-2009, 12:48 AM
:facepalm:
Yeah, I get you thinking that what said as stupid, but lets be honest here. Most people, who go to the movies for simple enjoyment don't look at the directing, quality of special effects, or the lighting or anything like that. For most of us, going to the movies is about ENTERTAINMENT. And if you're watching something boring, you're not being entertained. Therefore, you won't enjoy the movie. You don't see me bitching you out because you liked the movie and I didn't. To insult someone's intelligence because of their opinion is rude, and if you get all judgemental on someone just because someone has an opinion that differs from yours, you are going to have a long, miserable life. At least if you have something to say to someone, say it in a nice way so that you don't end up offending someone.

Whatevery0___
04-03-2009, 12:59 AM
What does that have to do with anything? Sure, it was better, but it was still disappointing.

better than TDK? HA!

TheElementofOne
04-03-2009, 03:29 AM
Yeah, I get you thinking that what said as stupid, but lets be honest here. Most people, who go to the movies for simple enjoyment don't look at the directing, quality of special effects, or the lighting or anything like that. For most of us, going to the movies is about ENTERTAINMENT. And if you're watching something boring, you're not being entertained. Therefore, you won't enjoy the movie. You don't see me bitching you out because you liked the movie and I didn't. To insult someone's intelligence because of their opinion is rude, and if you get all judgemental on someone just because someone has an opinion that differs from yours, you are going to have a long, miserable life. At least if you have something to say to someone, say it in a nice way so that you don't end up offending someone.

youre only furthering my belief that youre an idiot ykno that?

better than TDK? HA!

it IS better.

scouser7
04-03-2009, 06:17 AM
I havent read the comics or anything connect to Watchmen, so i haven't a base to compare.I think the movie is veyry different from other superhero movies, for example F4.Is is more like The Dark Knight, so i liked Watchmen

Nikias
04-03-2009, 09:33 AM
I thought it was pretty cool, but they completely changed the ending and there was really zero valid reason for it. I mean seriously, what the fuck? Up until that point I think it remained pretty true to the novel and I think they pulled it off well, but I keep thinking it over and I can see no reason why they would have changed the ending.

TheElementofOne
04-03-2009, 12:38 PM
I thought it was pretty cool, but they completely changed the ending and there was really zero valid reason for it. I mean seriously, what the fuck? Up until that point I think it remained pretty true to the novel and I think they pulled it off well, but I keep thinking it over and I can see no reason why they would have changed the ending.

yeah id love to have seen the Squid but...ykno...considering how stupid a good amount of teenagers are they wouldnt get it and be like WTF THIS IS SOOO ST00PID!

:shifty:

Innocent_Succubus
04-03-2009, 01:40 PM
OMG wow. I didn't miss the whole point of the movie. I got confused on the parts when they were kind of introducing the characters, the old group and the new group. Also, yes, while I didn't believe that movie would be the next Terminator movie, I did expect it to have a little action (aka something interesting). Shame on me for actually thinking that something entertaining would happen in the movie :rolleyes:

You say you didn't miss the point of the movie, but yet every post you've made on it thus far proves otherwise.

Also action =/= entertaining.
Action can be entertaining, but the words are not synonymous.

Shame on you for missing letting all the entertaining parts fly over your head and/or not being entertained by them.
Clearly, this is not your sort of movie.
So why then did you go see it?

GirlNextDoor15
04-03-2009, 07:15 PM
You say you didn't miss the point of the movie, but yet every post you've made on it thus far proves otherwise.

Also action =/= entertaining.
Action can be entertaining, but the words are not synonymous.

Shame on you for missing letting all the entertaining parts fly over your head and/or not being entertained by them.
Clearly, this is not your sort of movie.
So why then did you go see it?
I love all things superhero. I'm a HUGE geek when it comes to comic books and such. My dad collected them and got me hooked on them, and I collect them too. So obviousley, if a movie based on a comic book comes out, I go see it. Honestly, I'm fairly easy to please when it comes to movies, and I can't remember seeing a movie that I disliked as much as I did Watchmen. It just wasn't interesting at all, and obviousley, I'm not the only one that thought so. Most of the people that I know that saw the movie disliked it too.

Nate_Is_Bored
04-03-2009, 09:41 PM
retarded boring movie that was way too long and had retarded slow motion in it that wasnt even necessary watchmen is seriously one of the worst movies ive ever seen in my whole life

nickyXnihilist
04-04-2009, 12:33 AM
I thought it was pretty cool, but they completely changed the ending and there was really zero valid reason for it. I mean seriously, what the fuck? Up until that point I think it remained pretty true to the novel and I think they pulled it off well, but I keep thinking it over and I can see no reason why they would have changed the ending.

Really? No reason at all? You can't possibly comprehend how a giant squid appearing in New York and blowing up half the city might be a huge WTF moment for the general movie going audience? (Read: not fanboys or anyone who has read the comic and knows what was coming)

The reason the squid works in the comic is because there's buildup. All throughout there are the little news items about missing artists, writers, scientists, etc - people who Veidt hired to work on the squid project, then killed them all off. None of that happens in the movie, so unleashing a giant squid for no damn reason would make no damn sense. They didn't even actually change what happens at the end, they change how it happens. For the way Zach Snyder streamlined the book onto the screen, it makes more sense for Veidt's plot to lead everyone to believe Dr. Manhattan turned on America.

TheElementofOne
04-04-2009, 02:56 AM
I love all things superhero. I'm a HUGE geek when it comes to comic books and such. My dad collected them and got me hooked on them, and I collect them too. So obviousley, if a movie based on a comic book comes out, I go see it. Honestly, I'm fairly easy to please when it comes to movies, and I can't remember seeing a movie that I disliked as much as I did Watchmen. It just wasn't interesting at all, and obviousley, I'm not the only one that thought so. Most of the people that I know that saw the movie disliked it too.

retarded boring movie that was way too long and had retarded slow motion in it that wasnt even necessary watchmen is seriously one of the worst movies ive ever seen in my whole life

:facepalm:

again

twisted-justice
04-04-2009, 03:02 PM
I'm new to Watchmen and to tell you the truth I was kind disappointed. I feel like they could have told a little more how the world was changed due to the superheros existance. I mean they did an ok job at it but some of the events already would have happened anyway. When history did change you hardly saw any effects of it, like when they won in Vietnam. Sure you heard that they won but what would be one of the outcomes of them winning? I don't feel like they showed enough of a change.

This could just be because i'm new but how where they superheroes? I don't want to sound like some idiotic American but when i go to see a superhero movie I want to see them with superpowers... That being said I also feel like Dr. Manhattan was too powerful.

Nikias
04-04-2009, 03:11 PM
Really? No reason at all? You can't possibly comprehend how a giant squid appearing in New York and blowing up half the city might be a huge WTF moment for the general movie going audience? (Read: not fanboys or anyone who has read the comic and knows what was coming)

The reason the squid works in the comic is because there's buildup. All throughout there are the little news items about missing artists, writers, scientists, etc - people who Veidt hired to work on the squid project, then killed them all off. None of that happens in the movie, so unleashing a giant squid for no damn reason would make no damn sense. They didn't even actually change what happens at the end, they change how it happens. For the way Zach Snyder streamlined the book onto the screen, it makes more sense for Veidt's plot to lead everyone to believe Dr. Manhattan turned on America.

:facepalm: are you completely retarded? I obviously didn't mean they should have the squid come out of nowhere. They should have had those little bits here and there in the movie. If they did it right and cut some other stuff it wouldn't lengthen it at all. And they absolutely changed what happens in the end. Dr. Manhattan is blamed, and rather than world peace happening to study extra dimensions to prevent this event from reoccurring, it happens so they can concentrate their efforts against Dr. Manhattan if he returns. Not to mention how the fuck did he even cause that explosion and make it look like it was Dr. Manhattan. It was completely unexplained.

TheElementofOne
04-04-2009, 06:55 PM
I'm new to Watchmen and to tell you the truth I was kind disappointed. I feel like they could have told a little more how the world was changed due to the superheros existance. I mean they did an ok job at it but some of the events already would have happened anyway. When history did change you hardly saw any effects of it, like when they won in Vietnam. Sure you heard that they won but what would be one of the outcomes of them winning? I don't feel like they showed enough of a change.

This could just be because i'm new but how where they superheroes? I don't want to sound like some idiotic American but when i go to see a superhero movie I want to see them with superpowers... That being said I also feel like Dr. Manhattan was too powerful.

its never explain in the graphic novel so what does it matter? Dr Manhattan is greatest weapon the US has that alone is enough.

nickyXnihilist
04-05-2009, 05:48 PM
Eh, I liked the ending in the film. I don't think the change ruined the story at all... the only thing that made me go 'wtf' about it is if Dr. Manhattan is the only thing keeping the Russians at bay... and he turns on the US... wtf was stopping them then? The US lost their greatest weapon.

Either way though, I think for the choice Zach Snyder made in adapting the comic to the movie, the ending he chose worked very well.

I'm new to Watchmen and to tell you the truth I was kind disappointed. I feel like they could have told a little more how the world was changed due to the superheros existance. I mean they did an ok job at it but some of the events already would have happened anyway. When history did change you hardly saw any effects of it, like when they won in Vietnam. Sure you heard that they won but what would be one of the outcomes of them winning? I don't feel like they showed enough of a change.

They showed you how the world was changed. They didn't spell it out for you in dialogue because they're treating the audience as rational, intelligent human beings, not as mindless drones who need to be spoonfed every idea they're trying to get across. Here's a hint: It's set in 1985 and the Cold War was still going on with tensions at an all-time high. Vietnam was the 51st US state and Richard Nixon was on his third term as president. All those things can be directly or indirectly related to the existence of superheroes (also: The Comedian may or may not have assassinated JFK).

Although maybe the Black Freighter comics being included could've helped show how that world vs. our world are different - superheroes are real,

This could just be because i'm new but how where they superheroes? I don't want to sound like some idiotic American but when i go to see a superhero movie I want to see them with superpowers... That being said I also feel like Dr. Manhattan was too powerful.

Batman doesn't have any superpowers. Iron Man doesn't have any superpowers. A lot of superheroes don't actually have any powers. And how do you go from "Well they had no powers!" to "But the one who DOES have powers... IT'S TOO MUCH."

Twisted_Logic
04-05-2009, 06:51 PM
Blue penis....blue penis....blue penis....*Rocking back and forth*

Nel_mio_cuore
04-06-2009, 07:15 AM
The Dark Knight was badass. Watchmen was just bad.It was horrible! WAAYYY too long, took like 2 and half hours to just get to the point, little action, very confusing in the beginning. It was also boring, and the sex scene made me feel like I was watching **** or something. What was the fucking point of making that movie? I also didn't like the characters, considering they were boring as well, and not even superheroes or anything. They were just like the bad guys. WTF? That movie was complete shit.

The whole point of Watchmen was not action or superheros. Read the comic.

Nel_mio_cuore
04-06-2009, 07:19 AM
Eh, I liked the ending in the film. I don't think the change ruined the story at all... the only thing that made me go 'wtf' about it is if Dr. Manhattan is the only thing keeping the Russians at bay... and he turns on the US... wtf was stopping them then? The US lost their greatest weapon.

Either way though, I think for the choice Zach Snyder made in adapting the comic to the movie, the ending he chose worked very well.



They showed you how the world was changed. They didn't spell it out for you in dialogue because they're treating the audience as rational, intelligent human beings, not as mindless drones who need to be spoonfed every idea they're trying to get across. Here's a hint: It's set in 1985 and the Cold War was still going on with tensions at an all-time high. Vietnam was the 51st US state and Richard Nixon was on his third term as president. All those things can be directly or indirectly related to the existence of superheroes (also: The Comedian may or may not have assassinated JFK).

Although maybe the Black Freighter comics being included could've helped show how that world vs. our world are different - superheroes are real,



Batman doesn't have any superpowers. Iron Man doesn't have any superpowers. A lot of superheroes don't actually have any powers. And how do you go from "Well they had no powers!" to "But the one who DOES have powers... IT'S TOO MUCH."

He didn't turn on the US, Ozymandias made it look like he did. Manhattan agreed to keep quite about it, and left earth.

GirlNextDoor15
04-06-2009, 09:50 AM
retarded boring movie that was way too long and had retarded slow motion in it that wasnt even necessary watchmen is seriously one of the worst movies ive ever seen in my whole life
Thank you Thank you THANK YOU!!! I 100% agree.
But, get ready to be bashed by a bunch of assholes who think that their opinions are superior to others :rolleyes:

GirlNextDoor15
04-06-2009, 09:53 AM
The whole point of Watchmen was not action or superheros. Read the comic.
OMG not another one. My point was this:
I did not like the movie.
And please don't go on and on wanting to argue back in forth until I decide that the movie was awesome. Can we please just agree to disagree?

twisted-justice
04-06-2009, 01:55 PM
They showed you how the world was changed. They didn't spell it out for you in dialogue because they're treating the audience as rational, intelligent human beings, not as mindless drones who need to be spoonfed every idea they're trying to get across. Here's a hint: It's set in 1985 and the Cold War was still going on with tensions at an all-time high. Vietnam was the 51st US state and Richard Nixon was on his third term as president. All those things can be directly or indirectly related to the existence of superheroes (also: The Comedian may or may not have assassinated JFK). Asking for more dialogue and describing dialogue are two different things. I wanted more not because I was unaware of what was going on but because I wanted to see more of if. No need to be a dickhead.

Although maybe the Black Freighter comics being included could've helped show how that world vs. our world are different - superheroes are real,



Batman doesn't have any superpowers. Iron Man doesn't have any superpowers. A lot of superheroes don't actually have any powers. And how do you go from "Well they had no powers!" to "But the one who DOES have powers... IT'S TOO MUCH." [/QUOTE]
Batman and Iron Man may not have natural super powers but they do alot more than just punching and kicks the crack heads and hookers in New York. They power was disproportionate. What's the point of having a number of superheroes when one best all?

Nikias
04-06-2009, 02:37 PM
Because it's not supposed to be some perfectly balanced team of super-friends. It's supposed to be real. One guy happened to have his intrinsic field destabilized and entered into some extra-dimensional existence.

TheElementofOne
04-06-2009, 03:49 PM
Thank you Thank you THANK YOU!!! I 100% agree.
But, get ready to be bashed by a bunch of assholes who think that their opinions are superior to others :rolleyes:

so youre siding with another retard? man youre not really helping your cause.

deagled
04-06-2009, 04:41 PM
so youre siding with another retard? man youre not really helping your cause.

Where we can disagree on a penis, I can easily say that this girlnextdoor is one of the dumbest mfers on the movies forum. It is downright sad that someone can say that a movie sucks because of the lack of action scenes. Why can't they just say it isn't their cup of Dew? Why does a lack of violence make a movie suck? Please don't put me on the same tier of intelligence as these abortions.

GirlNextDoor15
04-06-2009, 05:24 PM
so youre siding with another retard? man youre not really helping your cause.

Where we can disagree on a penis, I can easily say that this girlnextdoor is one of the dumbest mfers on the movies forum. It is downright sad that someone can say that a movie sucks because of the lack of action scenes. Why can't they just say it isn't their cup of Dew? Why does a lack of violence make a movie suck? Please don't put me on the same tier of intelligence as these abortions.
hahahaha wow. Someone's a little too serious about a movie forum on the internet. lmao

Innocent_Succubus
04-06-2009, 06:45 PM
OMG not another one. My point was this:
I did not like the movie.
And please don't go on and on wanting to argue back in forth until I decide that the movie was awesome. Can we please just agree to disagree?

Our problem with you, or mine at least, is not that you didn't like the movie.
It's that your reasons for not liking the movie are bullshit.
If you had legitimate reasons or had even just said "It wasn't my thing, I didn't like.", I probably wouldn't have said anything at all.

I'm a big believer in different strokes for different folks, however your absolute dumbfuckery about the movie compelled me to call you on it.

I.E. You went to the movie and wanted action and superheros saving the day, even though that's not the point of the movie and then when it wasn't given to you, you bitched about how the movie didn't have enough action and how that made it completely invalid as a movie. Do you see how stupid that is?

deagled
04-06-2009, 06:59 PM
Our problem with you, or mine at least, is not that you didn't like the movie.
It's that your reasons for not liking the movie are bullshit.
If you had legitimate reasons or had even just said "It wasn't my thing, I didn't like.", I probably wouldn't have said anything at all.

I'm a big believer in different strokes for different folks, however your absolute dumbfuckery about the movie compelled me to call you on it.

I.E. You went to the movie and wanted action and superheros saving the day, even though that's not the point of the movie and then when it wasn't given to you, you bitched about how the movie didn't have enough action and how that made it completely invalid as a movie. Do you see how stupid that is?

Stole the words from my mouth.

Tony_Durden
04-06-2009, 08:25 PM
The Dark Knight>Watchmen

Watchmen was good, but it was a hollow film. Aside from Rorschach's death the movie was dead emotionally. Which is something I dislike. Like all the characters even though they were well acted felt hollow. There was no emotional center to them, and that's something I dislike about Snyder's films so far. Mind you, I love the comic and have for years but they somehow managed to screw up pretty much all of the emotional beats. Like when they go into Rorschach's past, if they had delved into it more and gave it some more build up before he told how he snapped (Didn't like the new method of killing) it would have made that scene stronger. The chick who played Silk Spectre though was terrible, that was supposed to be the strongest scene for her character and a powerful scene but it was just done horribly. Whether it's her acting, or how the scene was written or Snyder's direction Idk but that was a let down.

Overall a good movie, I liked it but it's not better than The Dark Knight. Hell as much as I love TDK that is my second top comic film personally. However this film WAS NOT an intelligent film, not saying it was stupid but it really isn't intelligently made to the point where it goes over one's head. It's just harder to access because of the nature of the adaption for those who haven't read the comic. It's not that it went over their head, it's just they don't understand the point. Just like Sin City, that's on Snyder.

GirlNextDoor15
04-06-2009, 11:11 PM
Our problem with you, or mine at least, is not that you didn't like the movie.
It's that your reasons for not liking the movie are bullshit.
If you had legitimate reasons or had even just said "It wasn't my thing, I didn't like.", I probably wouldn't have said anything at all.

I'm a big believer in different strokes for different folks, however your absolute dumbfuckery about the movie compelled me to call you on it.

I.E. You went to the movie and wanted action and superheros saving the day, even though that's not the point of the movie and then when it wasn't given to you, you bitched about how the movie didn't have enough action and how that made it completely invalid as a movie. Do you see how stupid that is?
Okay, and you're entitled to your opinion. Whatever

nickyXnihilist
04-07-2009, 12:38 AM
He didn't turn on the US, Ozymandias made it look like he did. Manhattan agreed to keep quite about it, and left earth.


I'm aware of that, but the reason he (and the rest of them) kept quiet was so the rest of the world would THINK it was him. If the rest of the world THOUGHT the US's greatest weapon turned on them, what's stopping them from taking over? The US is basically powerless.

Nikias
04-07-2009, 01:34 AM
I'm aware of that, but the reason he (and the rest of them) kept quiet was so the rest of the world would THINK it was him. If the rest of the world THOUGHT the US's greatest weapon turned on them, what's stopping them from taking over? The US is basically powerless.

The explosions went off in major cities around the world. The entire human race thought Dr. Manhattan had turned against all of them.

TheElementofOne
04-07-2009, 02:26 AM
The Dark Knight>Watchmen

Watchmen was good, but it was a hollow film. Aside from Rorschach's death the movie was dead emotionally. Which is something I dislike. Like all the characters even though they were well acted felt hollow. There was no emotional center to them, and that's something I dislike about Snyder's films so far. Mind you, I love the comic and have for years but they somehow managed to screw up pretty much all of the emotional beats. Like when they go into Rorschach's past, if they had delved into it more and gave it some more build up before he told how he snapped (Didn't like the new method of killing) it would have made that scene stronger. The chick who played Silk Spectre though was terrible, that was supposed to be the strongest scene for her character and a powerful scene but it was just done horribly. Whether it's her acting, or how the scene was written or Snyder's direction Idk but that was a let down.

Overall a good movie, I liked it but it's not better than The Dark Knight. Hell as much as I love TDK that is my second top comic film personally. However this film WAS NOT an intelligent film, not saying it was stupid but it really isn't intelligently made to the point where it goes over one's head. It's just harder to access because of the nature of the adaption for those who haven't read the comic. It's not that it went over their head, it's just they don't understand the point. Just like Sin City, that's on Snyder.

Rorschach and the Comedian were played perfectly imo. Dr Manhattan's serene indifference to his character was also a great touch but silk spectre didnt bother me much since i found her to be my least favorite character in the novel. Nite Owl also translated well but had they given him more depth it wouldve been better. There is a 3 hr and 40 minute cut of this movie so who knows, maybe more of that character story will be inserted back into the movie.

Nel_mio_cuore
04-21-2009, 04:07 AM
Rorschach and the Comedian were played perfectly imo. Dr Manhattan's serene indifference to his character was also a great touch but silk spectre didnt bother me much since i found her to be my least favorite character in the novel. Nite Owl also translated well but had they given him more depth it wouldve been better. There is a 3 hr and 40 minute cut of this movie so who knows, maybe more of that character story will be inserted back into the movie.

I heard that the Director's cut is going to come out sometime in June or July.

The_13th
04-25-2009, 04:58 PM
I heard that the Director's cut is going to come out sometime in June or July.

the theatrical release was a bit slow occasionally. I doubt that the DC (dir. cut) will bring something interesting