over the past 300 years there have been more than 200 reports of peeple burning to a crisp for no reeson :eek2: anyone got any storys about this

I have actualy heard that, but i dont beleive it. there has to be some reason it would happen.

well i dunt fink there is any explanations only theories but its still weerd lol

Impossible.

Absolutely nothing in this universe is spontaneous. If it happens, you can bet that there was prior initiation.

like wat

If there was to be combustion in your body, there would need be some sort of chemical reaction between certain compounds to disrupt balance. There is the bare essentials for combustion within your body, but the means of triggering the reaction is nearly impossible-- if not impossible.

well sum peeple say that electrical fields that are in the body short circuit or sumfing

well sum peeple say that electrical fields that are in the body short circuit or sumfing
*some
*people
*something

your spelling bugs the hell out of me.

Well, taking your theory into account, even the "short circuiting" of the body would need stimulation to come about.

k then well i just find it intresting thats all and to that one talking about my spelling get lost im not asking u to come here its not about my spelling so if u dunt like it clear off

Yes, it's a good fairy-tale/scary story to tell your friends. Rest easy knowing that there isn't any possible way that your body can combust without proper stimulation.

k lol

Correct, lawl

well then y are the bodys that are found afta spontaneous combustion far more burnt than one from a normal fire

You're not understanding...

The bare essentials lie in the human body to have it combust [or rather, burn, would be more prolific]. But, there HAS to be proper stimulation for this event to occur. Nothing happens "out of the blue".

yer but there is actually peeple who have seen peeple explode in flames in front of them and thay say that there was no source of ignition and that the flames came strait from there skin

I assume that if it's going to happen, it's going to happen at a molecular level. So, unless these people who witnessed the ignition have molecular vision, they have absolutely no clue what is happening to them.

It could be something they ate, it could be the way they're sitting, it could be any number of things.

alrite then lol

ya srsly dude

wateva g/f lol :)

Your body is 60% water.

I don't think it could ever ignite.

water evaporates under heat

water evaporates under heatNot from inside your body.

Especially seeing as your body isn't flammable.

fats and oils are inflammable your body contains those

Yeah, there is nearly no chance of this happening.

Water evaporates-- but if 10% of our water evaporated, that would stil not be sufficient enough to start our body on fire. Not to mention the fact that losing 10% of water retention would kill a human.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_human_combustion#SHC_and_modern_scienc e

fats and oils are inflammable your body contains thoseIt would need a freak ignition.

Something 60% water would never burn under usual circumstances.

thats why it probually only occures rarely

wat about peeple who have lived to tell there story

wat about peeple who have lived to tell there story
you mean people who witnessed it

no there has been cases where peeple have been burnt but not to death but there was nuffing around to cause it or have had smoke coming from there bodys lol

maybe thats a different Phenomenon

well it says spontaneous human combustion

yes but i would'nt take it as fact

k lol

I want to see evidence of these documented cases.

Wow. I want to die like that.

anyone else got any theories about this

maybe they were holdin a cigarette when they went up in flames lolz

no i fink it was a crakker up there ass :rolleyes:

They drank too much vodka and had a cigarette.

*BOOM* ARGH!

SHC is impossible.
Like other people have said, nothing happens spontaneously and it is not a proven natural occurance in nature.

There are two main theories of what happens to a body that has experienced SHC.

1. a non-spontaneous "wick effect" fire
2. a rare, but more realistic discharge called static flash fires

It is still unknown what causes it though.
However, Divine Intervention seems to play a huge role in the theories.

(Note to the threadstarter: if you are going to post on a science board, please use proper English spelling and grammar. Otherwise you will look like a dumb blond and no one will take you seriously. Just a thought.)

rite then

rite then


*Alright then.

You bother me.
Please leave the scientific world! NOW!

go take ur pms sumwhere else and get off my thread if u dunt like my spelling

I'm not sure it's possible but threr's no explination of what happened

go take ur pms sumwhere else and get off my thread if u dunt like my spelling

Actually, even though I'm 16, I have not yet experienced the hell that is a menstrual cycle. Like I have previously said, I do not take you seriously, you are a dumb 13 year old who is trying to be smart. Here is a great suggestion that I have for you to consider.

Leave this science board.
Go get an English dictionary.
Learn to spell correctly.
Come back and speak to me like you actually know what you are talking about.

leeve me alone

should'nt let it upset you just ignore it they go away if you don't respond

Ah young girls, so nieve.

jesse you ever met cummie

wat are u talking about

Ah young girls, so nieve.One tends to agree.

I'm not convinced on this spontaneous human combustion.

There's no literal scientific explanation for it.

wat are u talking about
just someone on ts that reminds me of Kanevra hehehe

SHC is impossible.
Like other people have said, nothing happens spontaneously
Untrue. Many things happen randomly, but those are at the subatomic level. the chances of combustion are, like, really low.

One tends to agree.

I'm not convinced on this spontaneous human combustion.

There's no literal scientific explanation for it.
that dos'nt mean it's not possible

One tends to agree.

I'm not convinced on this spontaneous human combustion.

There's no literal scientific explanation for it.

I am not either. It is just pseudoscience. It cannot be proven.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_human_combustion

or disproven

Untrue. Many things happen randomly, but those are at the subatomic level. the chances of combustion are, like, really low.

They may happen randomly, but spontaneous and random are totally different.

that dos'nt mean it's not possible

It does mean, however, that it is not plausable.

or disprovenAbsence of evidence is evidence of absence.

Especially when it comes to science.

just someone on ts that reminds me of Kanevra hehehe

That is the best you can come up with!? Very childish sweetie. You just made yourself look really smart...:rolleyes:
You don't want to get on my bad side hun.

They may happen randomly, but spontaneous and random are totally different.
Actually, it happens randomly and spontaneously.

Absence of evidence is evidence of absence.

Especially when it comes to science.

I agree oncemore with you. Science is very materialistic, no evidence, no event.

Actually, it happens randomly and spontaneously.

Now you are just contradicting yourself.

but theres no evidence that it does not happen
that's what makes it a mystery

Now you are just contradicting yourself.
How so? Random as in without pattern, and spontaneous as in no external influence. I fail to see the contradiction.

I agree oncemore with you. Science is very materialistic, no evidence, no event.
that's not true the event happened it's explaining how it happened thats puzzling

but theres no evidence that it does not happen
that's what makes it a mystery
Yes, but people are merely skeptical of it since there are only unreliable eye witness acounts of it. It is a bit extreme to flatout say it is impossible, yes, but it seen as implausible by many.

but theres no evidence that it does not happen
that's what makes it a mystery

In the world of science, if it is a mystery, it isn't true.

i thought in the world of science that if its a mystery people try to solve it

How so? Random as in without pattern, and spontaneous as in no external influence. I fail to see the contradiction.


they are not the same

spontaneous- coming or resulting from a natural impulse or tendency; without effort or premeditation; natural and unconstrained; unplanned

Random- of or characterizing a process of selection in which each item of a set has an equal probability of being chosen

There cynical science, Trish, and then there's pasisonate science; Kanny is describing cynical science.

i thought in the world of science that if its a mystery people try to solve it

If it can't be solved and remains a mystery then it doesn't belong in science.

they are not the same

spontaneous- coming or resulting from a natural impulse or tendency; without effort or premeditation; natural and unconstrained; unplanned

Random- of or characterizing a process of selection in which each item of a set has an equal probability of being chosen
Okay, now look at the first definition of random, sicne you used number four. That's what I am using, now please try to attack my point with that in mind. It's superfluous whether I'm saying it's random or not, anyway, and it is not random by the definition you used, anyway, and you're the one who claimed it was random.

rubbish if its a mystery u say it carnt happen then wat about in medical science the cure for cancer is a mystery dus that mean it dus NOT happen ur geting boring now uv had ur say on this topic y dunt u just clear off now

well if kanny's science is applied to problems then the future looks bleak

If it can't be solved and remains a mystery then it doesn't belong in science.
who sets the timeline for solving unexplained things or are people always willing to
find out the cause

Actually an attempt to solve the mystery has been attempted.

But seeing as there are only a few eyewitness accounts, no evidence or explanation, someone thinking logically would see it is implausible.

Medical research, and the inquiry into some insignificant urban legends are very different.

rubbish if its a mystery u say it carnt happen then wat about in medical science the cure for cancer is a mystery dus that mean it dus NOT happen ur geting boring now uv had ur say on this topic y dunt u just clear off now

I can't really understand what you are trying to say because your spelling is horrible, but I think I can interprate it.

The cure for cancer is not a mystery. It is unknown. There is a HUGE difference! For it to be a mystery, it would have to happen or be found and still be unexplained.

If it can't be solved and remains a mystery then it doesn't belong in science.
That's true, but why couldn't this be solved.

If it can be, let's just hope those who do so don't forget their solution sets.

who sets the timeline for solving unexplained things or are people always willing to
find out the cause

Don't be stupid, I never said that there is a timeline. People will still be searching for the answers. They always will be, but until the answers are found, it remains a mystery and does not deserve a place in the scientific community.

That's true, but why couldn't this be solved.

If it can be, let's just hope those who do so don't forget their solution sets.

Yes, I deffinately agree on this aspect.

y dunt u go pump sum weights or sumfing u agressive losa this is a discussion thats all u have sayd ova and ova agen that u can see i carnt spell BIG FUKN DEAL build a bridge and get ova it

Hey, watchayakan, I say we make our own thread specifically for mysteries and the scientific community. What do you think?

y dunt u go pump sum weights or sumfing u agressive losa this is a discussion thats all u have sayd ova and ova agen that u can see i carnt spell BIG FUKN DEAL build a bridge and get ova it

I pity you, you're stupid...

Sure. I haven't made a thread in a while. What kinda mysterious you have in mind?

Don't be stupid, I never said that there is a timeline. People will still be searching for the answers. They always will be, but until the answers are found, it remains a mystery and does not deserve a place in the scientific community.
most things in the scientific community started as mysteries to be solved is my understanding of science

and i pity u having to go in threads and start fites with peeple for no reeson lets scroll bac and see wat ur first comment was wat makes u feel superior to anyone else in intellect u just look like an immature asshole to me

Sure. I haven't made a thread in a while. What kinda mysterious you have in mind?

Well, just the usual stuff like anti matter, SHC, life, concept of time, universe

My two cents:

In a science forum, coherent and fairly accurate spelling and grammar are important.

You shouldn't have to be great at English to have a scientific discussion, but if you're going to type in a way that it makes it difficult to understand, and then spout ad hominem arguments at the person criticising you, then maybe this forum isn't for you.

most things in the scientific community started as mysteries to be solved is my understanding of science

not true at all
most things in the scientific community were discovered by chance

well to bad cos im in it so if u dunt like this thread leeve

Well, just the usual stuff like anti matter, SHC, life, concept of time, universe
Alrighty then. Why don't you make it, as I'm unsure as to the format you're thinking of.

My two cents:

In a science forum, coherent and fairly accurate spelling and grammar are important.

You shouldn't have to be great at English to have a scientific discussion, but if you're going to type in a way that it makes it difficult to understand, and then spout ad hominem arguments at the person criticising you, then maybe this forum isn't for you.

Thank you. I'm just trying to let her know that she doesn't have to be the best speller, but at least type it so I can read it. English was my fourth language. I have trouble reading her posts!

Alrighty then. Why don't you make it, as I'm unsure as to the format you're thinking of.

Ok I will.

bac to the topic anyone have any ideas or views on spontaneous human combustion

not true at all
most things in the scientific community were discovered by chance
maybe they were but they were discovered while searching for answers that some of the answers came by chance has no suggnificance

bac to the topic anyone have any ideas or views on spontaneous human combustion
my view remains the same as before

k lol

well to bad cos im in it so if u dunt like this thread leeveThat's not a very good attitude.

k

Anyway.

SHC is utter bullshit.

But if you have half a brain, you'd already ahve known that.


People burn to a crisp because once their fat starts burning, the rest of them will go up like a bomb.

altho eyewitness acounts are rare there have stil been a few any thorts about these

(Note to the threadstarter: if you are going to post on a science board, please use proper English spelling and grammar. Otherwise you will look like a dumb blond and no one will take you seriously. Just a thought.)
Originally Posted By Kanevra
NOTE: To Kanevra, for someone who proclaims to have so much intelligence this woz neither a helpful or intelligent comment to make.... next time don't bring a person's hair colour into the equation or people will think your stereotyping. Just a thought.
Also if you were half as intelligent as you claim that you are, when the attempt of jessie saying "rite then" was made anyone with an ounce of maturity or intelligence would have comprehended that to be an attempt to not further develop the argument or take on board your complaint, so why would you then further respond in such a provoking manner? Finally you say you haven't experienced a menstrual cycle when indeed your 16 i would think with the display you've shown here that your body is perhaps trying to tell you something...... your immature Just a thought

On the topic i wouldn't say i support the reality of spontaneous human combustion, although the theory of chemicals within the body havin a chaotic chain reaction causing a rare inbalance is interesting and could be the cause

k cool

This the same eyewitnesses who see UFOs and aliens?

(Americans)

i don't believe any eye witness accounts have been documented
most SHC cases are of people living or being alone when it occured

This the same eyewitnesses who see UFOs and aliens?

(Americans)

You're sadly mistaken if you think UFO sightings and reports are exclusively an American thing.

altho eyewitness acounts are rare there have stil been a few any thorts about these

*thoughts*

They are uncredited and unreliable.

(Note to the threadstarter: if you are going to post on a science board, please use proper English spelling and grammar. Otherwise you will look like a dumb blond and no one will take you seriously. Just a thought.)
Originally Posted By Kanevra
NOTE: To Kanevra, for someone who proclaims to have so much intelligence this woz neither a helpful or intelligent comment to make.... next time don't bring a person's hair colour into the equation or people will think your stereotyping. Just a thought.
Also if you were half as intelligent as you claim that you are, when the attempt of jessie saying "rite then" was made anyone with an ounce of maturity or intelligence would have comprehended that to be an attempt to not further develop the argument or take on board your complaint, so why would you then further respond in such a provoking manner? Finally you say you haven't experienced a menstrual cycle when indeed your 16 i would think with the display you've shown here that your body is perhaps trying to tell you something...... your immature Just a thought


1. I never claimed that I was intelligent. You just assumed that.
2. I was being stereotypical...she set herself up.
3. English is my fourth language, and I was just letting her know that her spelling was too horrible for me to read and actually take her seriously.
4. I have not had a menstrual cycle yet, not because of immaturity, but because of cancer.

Next time, learn a little about me before you strike back with stupid comments.

and jessie has had leukemia so learn a little about her before you strike your bitchy comments in the first place... you want to attack her blonde hair coz you saw her picture when itz finally grown back long and attack her spelling... if you also have had cancer then understand that maybe she missed a lot of school due to this.... learn you aren't the only one to have ever suffered and it still doesn't give you the right to attack peoples intellect... so no you learn to stay on the subject of the posts

LOSAS u have both completely ruined this thread with ur arguing BOTH OF U get off here and let the topic go on :mecry:

She is 13, even if she has missed a lot of school, she should still know how to spell. I have only studied English for 4 years and I use it better than she does.

LOSAS u have both completely ruined this thread with ur arguing BOTH OF U get off here and let the topic go on :mecry:

Stop crying, you set yourself up.

GET OFF HERE twisted ur like a dog with a bone u carnt leeve it alone it is not my fault that english is ur 4th language i did not set myself up i made a thread about spontaneous human combustion it is MY thread if u carnt undastand english or u carnt undastand my spelling be mature and clikk the button and move on to anutha thread that ur happy with the world dusnt revolve round ur needs im sorry if u carnt undastand my spelling but its ur problem all u have to do is go to anutha post that u like y do u keep coming bac here i dunt care wat u have to say about my spelling the topic is SPONTANEOUS HUMAN COMBUSTION not my spelling not my hair colour

Let's stop this arguing. This science is for people to relay their side in an intelligible manner, which does mean trying to use proper spelling and grammar, but it does not mean slinging attacks and degrading one another, in any form or fashion.

It should have been noted once, maybe twice, that the thread starter should try to fix up 'er spelling, but just continuing it is not the goal of this forum; the goal of the forum is to enlighten one another about science and its processes.

I'm closing this because it no longer has anything to do with the topic. It's just pointless gibberish.