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Tay_lor7
03-18-2006, 07:53 PM
Just wondering id anyone out there is also a vegie, like for how long and why you started
I became one just because I could. I don't know how long.
Tay_lor7
03-18-2006, 08:01 PM
cool, i've been one for 2 1/2 years, cauz i support animal rights
I hardly believe being a vegitarian has any impact at all on the deaths of animals.
KinKRideR-Red
03-18-2006, 08:05 PM
cool, i've been one for 2 1/2 years, cauz i support animal rights
So are you against animals out in the wild that eat other animals?
FireGuardian
03-19-2006, 07:08 AM
I'm not a full blown vegetarian, but because my mom is I'm forced to go along with it. This is unless we go out to eat, when I can get whatever I want.
cjk91
03-19-2006, 07:18 AM
It's unnatural to be a vegetarian.
Animals eat other animals, humans are animals and we are designed to eat other animals.
The reason we have eyes at the front of out head is because we are predators and not prey.
The reason we have the types of teeth we have is because we are designed to eat meat.
Vegetarianism is defying nature. It's damaging your health.
Anyone who brings their child us as a vegetarian should be done for child abuse.
Seriously.
insision
03-19-2006, 10:25 AM
this is all i have to say
lmao
White_Chocolate420
03-19-2006, 10:31 AM
im a vegetarian. ive only been veg for like 5months
Pirouette
03-19-2006, 12:11 PM
It's damaging your health.
Wow that was the the stupidest and shallow minded thing i have ever heard..
The total direct medical costs in the United States attributable to meat consumption were estimated to be $30-60 billion a year, based upon the higher prevalence of hypertension, heart disease, cancer, diabetes, gallstones, obesity and food-borne illness among omnivores compared with vegetarians.
A large body of scientific literature suggests that the consumption of a diet of whole grains, legumes, vegetables, nuts, and fruits, with the avoidance of meat and high-fat animal products, along with a regular exercise program is consistently associated with lower blood cholesterol levels, lower blood pressure, less obesity and consequently less heart disease, stroke, diabetes, cancer, and mortality
http://www.vegetarian-nutrition.info/updates/vegetarian_diets_health_benefits.php
Pirouette
03-19-2006, 12:18 PM
Anyways Im a vegitarian. Ive been one for a little over a year maybe a year and a half.. At first I did for animal rights, but now im just sticking to it because of the health benefits.
cjk91
03-19-2006, 12:27 PM
Wow that was the the stupidest and shallow minded thing i have ever heard..
Wow, nice going finding a biased site...
And the health risks mostly come from mcdonald's rather then from real meat.
Linds
03-19-2006, 04:00 PM
Wow, nice going finding a biased site...
And the health risks mostly come from mcdonald's rather then from real meat.
Haha .. no.
xxgamergirlxx
03-19-2006, 04:11 PM
I'm not, tried, my health went down the drain.
MidNight_Rider_88
03-19-2006, 04:15 PM
no chicken wings,steak,shrimp,crawfish,turkey on thanksgiving
wtf that would be fucking terrible i wouldn't be a veggiterrian for 1million dollars
Uniqu3_Scholar_06
03-19-2006, 04:23 PM
I am, i've been one for the last few weeks lmao...the only reason im a vegitarian is because i gave up meat and chicken for Lent...but as soon as its finish i'll be celebratin buy goin to KFC lmao but its kinda hard bein a vegi coz most of the times im tempted to eat chicken...but so far i've gon wit out any so im good
Dimes_17
03-19-2006, 04:42 PM
im not a veg.... i go by a slogan ... Meat.. its there to eat.:)
Spatula
03-19-2006, 04:45 PM
VegEtarian.
Just for all you ignoramuses.
TIdoubleGR
03-20-2006, 01:21 AM
3 years in June.
In a sense, I think people who bash veggies/non-veggie are along the lines of racist's.
Hedley
03-20-2006, 01:23 AM
Vegetarian.
10 years.
Animal rights.
Venus_and_Adonis
03-20-2006, 03:18 AM
I've been a vegetarian for around four to five years.
My reason? I do not believe in factory farming.
SilverBanshee
03-20-2006, 05:41 AM
I've been a vegetarian for around 12 years.
Simply because I don't like the look or the taste of meat.
Deino
03-20-2006, 05:53 AM
i'm not vegetarian but i like vegies.i live a balanced diet.each time i eat meat i must have vegies.
AZBodybuilder
03-20-2006, 06:54 AM
Wow that was the the stupidest and shallow minded thing i have ever heard..
Learn to cite a better source next time.
The total direct medical costs in the United States attributable to meat consumption were estimated to be $30-60 billion a year, based upon the higher prevalence of hypertension, heart disease, cancer, diabetes, gallstones, obesity and food-borne illness among omnivores compared with vegetarians.
Hypertension is a result of cholesterol and obesity, and certainly isn't indicative of meat consumption by itself. Fiber largely handles cholesterol in the body when it comes to removal.
Heart disease is an issue of obesity, not eating meat.
Cancer has nothing to do with eating meat.
Gallstones is an occurance of uric acid build-up due to improper hydration. Only occurs if the person is chronically dehydrated.
The only food-borne illness of mention is e.coli (mad cow), and even then it isn't a large threat.
A large body of scientific literature suggests that the consumption of a diet of whole grains, legumes, vegetables, nuts, and fruits, with the avoidance of meat and high-fat animal products, along with a regular exercise program is consistently associated with lower blood cholesterol levels, lower blood pressure, less obesity and consequently less heart disease, stroke, diabetes, cancer, and mortality
Every diet that is sufficient in the 6 nutrients (vits/mins/pro/carb/fat/water) will achieve each and every benefit mentioned. The biggest problems encountered by vegetarians, and more specifically vegans, is the lack of b-vitamins, amongst other popular deficiencies (ie: protein).
Lower blood cholesterol levels is achieved by fiber intake and exercise. That isn't indicative of the diet itself.
Hypertension is very much associated with obesity as well, and is not indicative of the diet.
Obesity is fixed via exercise and having a good diet in general.
Stroke...WTF? Hello obesity issue again.
Mortality is a non-issue. Saying that you live longer by not eating meat is logically fallacious at best, and unsupportable at worst.
This article at best surmises that omnivores are obese, whereas vegetarians are only healthy and skinny. In my experiences as a personal trainer, the reality is people have no clue what they're doing diet-wise. I've had fat vegetarians, skinny vegetarians, and the same applies to omnivores.
Vegetarianism is perfectly healthy, and just fine provided it is not veganism. They can be either ovo/lacto/pesco/pollo vegetarians, or any mixture of those for ideal health. Either way it involves needing animal products for ideal health, something veganism does not provide.
hovla
03-20-2006, 08:27 AM
im not vegetarian and i dont think its very healty. and i like eating meat :D
Brittney
03-20-2006, 10:59 AM
I'm a pescatarian (or demi- or pesco-vegetarian, which ever you prefer). Which basically means I don't eat meat but I eat fish. I've been doing this for almost a year. I started for health reasons; I don't trust the amount of chemicals and hormones in meat.
cjk91
03-20-2006, 11:46 AM
But surely fish are much more liely to contain checmicals and hormones?
All our human material, including some hormonal residue, goes into the sea!
I've eaten meat all my life, and I'm fine. I never hear anything on the news about 'dangerous chemicals'.
Even if their was a possible health risk with meat, I'd rather live a short, happy life, than a long, miserable one.
Brittney
03-20-2006, 01:26 PM
But surely fish are much more liely to contain checmicals and hormones?
All our human material, including some hormonal residue, goes into the sea!
I've eaten meat all my life, and I'm fine. I never hear anything on the news about 'dangerous chemicals'.
Even if their was a possible health risk with meat, I'd rather live a short, happy life, than a long, miserable one.
Who says I can't have a happy, long life if I don't eat meat?
The real threat with (most) fish is if it contains high amounts of mercury.
And yes, some but the amount of chemicals/hormones in meat is outrageous back home (home being Canada and my referance being to the entire continent). I find Europe is not so bad because there are a lot more smaller, local farms here unlike in the Americas. A year back I worked VERY briefly at a slaughterhouse (in receiption) but what I saw there was unbelieveable. Chickens so overpumped with food with excessive amounts of hormones (to make them fatter/juicier, who the hell would want to buy a skinny, little chicken?) that they could no longer move. Cows with dirty open wounds and given quick anti-biotics that ends up going into it's body, a.k.a. your food. I would not eat fish either, but because of health reasons I'm dealing with at the moment, my doctor told me it would be healthier to eat a little bit of fish; I have fish about twice a week, I normally just subliment my lack of meat with soy, tofu, beans, nuts, etc.
Brittney
03-20-2006, 01:29 PM
As for hearing about it on the news, most news companies are sponsored by large corporations (as well as the government). They want to "protect" the economy. News reports about what's really in your meat would never be shown because too many companies/the overall economy would suffer.
thegirlimeantobe
03-20-2006, 02:08 PM
((Attention to all: Today is the great american meat-out. Try to eat as little meat as possible. I've gotten 20 people going veggie for the day.)) You'll notice all sources here are from unbiased sources. Not a single veg*n site.
Honestly. Some of you people are complete idiots. I swear. Everytime I come on here, I am reminded why I spend my time at other forums. Brittney, I agree with you. My life is MUCH happier now that I am vegetarian. And, I'd rather live a long, guilt-free, happy life, than a short miserable one.
CJK91- You said, It's unnatural to be a vegetarian.
Animals eat other animals, humans are animals and we are designed to eat other animals.
Well, if you are a religious person (I'm not), you can quote the bible: Genesis 1:29 "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground everything that has the breath of life in it i give every green plant for food." as you noticed it doesn't say animals or meat, it even goes as far as to say the "breath of life" this here shows us it is not some lifeless creature it is living!
In the beginning, all animals were herbivores.
Also, do some research. Vegetarianism is NOT damaging anyone's health. My little sister is being brought up vegetarian. She has never had one meat food in her life.Let's see, any mental defects? No, any developmental? No! In fact, she's extremely gifted and kind.
I became veggie 4 years ago, right before my sister was born. I did my research. I had to write a 6-page article on it to convince my mother. Wow. It changed her mind. She found my unbiased sources, saw how healthy it was. Decided to bring up Lisa veggie. I became veggie for animal rights. I stayed for health reasons.
No, maybe cancer, other problems such as that is not caused by eating meat. It is caused by obesity, which, by the way, is another reason to be vegetarian.
http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/news/pressreleases/vegetarianism_weightdown_mar06
Meat-eaters who switch to vegetarianism gain less weight over a five year period than people who make no changes to their dietary habits according to a new study published* today.
Cancer Research UK scientists studied the eating habits of 22,000 meat eaters, fish eaters, vegetarians and vegans of all ages over five years and compared weight gains in all these categories.
On average people gained two kilos during the period studied but the lowest weight gain was seen in those who had changed to a diet containing fewer animal foods.
Among people who did not change their diet over the five-year period the largest weight gain was in meat eaters and the smallest weight gain in vegans.
The study, conducted in Oxford, is part of the European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition (EPIC). It also found that men and women who changed their diet in the direction of meat to fish or fish to vegetarian or vegetarian to vegan showed less weight gain than those who made no dietary changes.
Professor Tim Key, deputy director of Cancer Research UK's epidemiology unit at Oxford University, who planned the study, said: "Contrary to current popular views that a diet low in carbohydrates and high in protein keeps weight down, we found that the lowest weight gain came in people with high intake of carbohydrate and low intake of protein.
Veganism, as well, is healthy. Yes, some of these diets are lacking in Vitamin B-12. There are shots for this if it gets too low, but can be maintained with a simple daily pill. Not a big deal.
http://www.newsobserver.com/105/story/410445.html
Vegans (and vegetarians) are less likely than nonvegetarians to be overweight, and they have lower rates of coronary artery disease. They have lower blood cholesterol levels and lower rates of high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes, and prostate and colon cancer.
It's not hard to understand why. If you don't eat meat and cheese, you consume a lot less saturated fat and cholesterol.
Vegans don't eat ice cream or most commercial cakes and cookies (they contain eggs). Rule out mayo-laden sandwiches, milk chocolate and butter. Vegans avoid margarine made with casein (a milk protein) and pie crusts that contain milk solids.
I've spent enough time with vegans to know another advantage: When you eat out as a vegan, you eat more healthful foods. Vegans eat more bulky, low-calorie foods, such as fruits and vegetables. They get more fiber, less fat and more of the beneficial phytochemicals found in foods of plant origin.
Instead of burgers and steaks, vegans gravitate toward Chinese restaurants where they fill up on hot and sour soup and big plates of vegetable stir-fry with steamed rice. Or they go for Indian or Ethiopian food -- heavy on vegetables and beans.
Even if you're not a vegan, you could benefit from eating more vegan foods.
And it isn't as rare as omnivores think. There are so many people doing it. The average veggie saves 760 chickens, five cows, 20 pigs, 20 sheep and half a ton of fish.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12971726&method=full
All Britons could be vegetarian by 2047 as 2,000 people a week stop eating meat, a study claimed yesterday.
Already 40 per cent of Brits avoid eating meat at least once a week with six per cent of the population totally vegetarian.
Jan Walsh, of the Consumer Analysis Group which did the research with Safeway, said: "To think that we could all be vegetarians by 2047 will come as a shock for some people, but it seems like we will be entering an age where the nation as a whole has finally begun to understand and respect the environment."
Any more questions?
Stone_the_Liberals
03-20-2006, 03:23 PM
A lot of meat comes from cows...
Cows are only born to die....
If no one ate them, they would no longer exist.
brenton07
03-20-2006, 03:23 PM
*except milk
xxgamergirlxx
03-20-2006, 03:27 PM
mmmm...meat.
Stone_the_Liberals
03-20-2006, 03:27 PM
*except milk
Fine, that was for vegans then.
The point is that people are not eating cows because cows are being killed for the meat we eat...
Cows are only born and raised to be slaughtered for their meat.
Duh!
Everyone knows that.
Stone_the_Liberals
03-20-2006, 03:29 PM
Oh and by the way...
You spelt Vegetarians wrong.
I like the effort though.
webbie3
03-20-2006, 03:30 PM
been one for 3 1/2 years. techically a lacto-vegetarian. i don't eat eggs, though.
thegirlimeantobe
03-20-2006, 04:33 PM
Stone_the_Liberals--
Now they are. In the beginning, do you really think that they were just born so people could eat them?
Idiot.
Stone_the_Liberals
03-20-2006, 04:42 PM
Stone_the_Liberals--
Now they are. In the beginning, do you really think that they were just born so people could eat them?
Idiot.
This isn't the beginning.
That is what they are for now...
Fucker.
AZBodybuilder
03-20-2006, 08:52 PM
Honestly. Some of you people are complete idiots. I swear. Everytime I come on here, I am reminded why I spend my time at other forums. Brittney, I agree with you. My life is MUCH happier now that I am vegetarian. And, I'd rather live a long, guilt-free, happy life, than a short miserable one.
You may want to start delving into biochemistry, dietetics, and human physiology for starters.
Vegetarianism is fine, don't try proclaiming it superior to omnivorous diets or I will have zero problems effectively shooting you down.
In the beginning, all animals were herbivores.
Irrelevant, since post-flood in the Bible quite a few of those laws changed (ie: humans were now allowed to eat meat, evidenced by the Noahide covenant).
Also, do some research. Vegetarianism is NOT damaging anyone's health. My little sister is being brought up vegetarian. She has never had one meat food in her life.Let's see, any mental defects? No, any developmental? No! In fact, she's extremely gifted and kind.
Anecdotal evidence, and irrelevant.
I became veggie 4 years ago, right before my sister was born. I did my research. I had to write a 6-page article on it to convince my mother. Wow. It changed her mind. She found my unbiased sources, saw how healthy it was. Decided to bring up Lisa veggie. I became veggie for animal rights. I stayed for health reasons.
Fine.
No, maybe cancer, other problems such as that is not caused by eating meat. It is caused by obesity, which, by the way, is another reason to be vegetarian.
Your personal decision, it has nothing to do with meat.
Veganism, as well, is healthy. Yes, some of these diets are lacking in Vitamin B-12. There are shots for this if it gets too low, but can be maintained with a simple daily pill. Not a big deal.
You may want to check the synthesis rate of b-12 pills...1-2% is absorbed. You'd have to get a b-12 shot for it to be effective. So yes, it is a big deal.
And it isn't as rare as omnivores think. There are so many people doing it. The average veggie saves 760 chickens, five cows, 20 pigs, 20 sheep and half a ton of fish.
Who cares what it saves? Seriously. If anything it acts as population control to a certain extent.
Any more questions?
I'd like you to point out the synthesis rate of b-vitamins outside of meat, and the synthesis of protein from plants. When you confirm the answer is 1-2% and 30-40% respectively, you can admit that vegetarianism is by no means superior to an omnivorous diet.
A moderated, and properly done omnivorous diet will always be superior to a strictly vegetarian diet.
For the other person in the thread that is pesco-vegetarian...good for you. You're getting what other vegetarians don't - omega 3 EFA complexes. Yet another reason strict vegetarians lose-out nutrition wise.
weirdo_with_a_popsicle
03-20-2006, 08:57 PM
i started being vegan after finding out pigs are as smart as dogs. then it extended to other red meat and fish. i tried going without chicken but got sick and my doctor said i had to eat at least one type of meat (even if i did take vitamins i'd have to).
currently i'm getting into more animal rights activism, like boycotting certain drugs and hair products because they are being used on animals.
britty
03-20-2006, 11:04 PM
i'm a vagetarian. :winkkiss:
i don't know.
SilverBanshee
03-21-2006, 02:06 AM
i tried going without chicken but got sick and my doctor said i had to eat at least one type of meat (even if i did take vitamins i'd have to).
You were probably lacking in iron, which means you'd have to eat red meat.
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I hate it how people say "being vegetarian isn't healthy for you!" ... It's much healthier than scoffing down on fatty meat and fast food.
3 years in June.
In a sense, I think people who bash veggies/non-veggie are along the lines of racist's.
its FOODISM!
ive been vegetarian for 4 years, strict vegetarian for 1 year.
animalrights/health + i think meat is gross.
Stacielicious
03-21-2006, 08:01 AM
No.
Lucyd431
03-24-2006, 07:11 PM
I could never be a vegetarian. No. No. No.
XwhendarknessfallsX
03-25-2006, 07:11 AM
i've been one for 2 years
animal rights mainly and for health
RazielCrow
03-25-2006, 07:10 PM
I've been vegetarian about 1 and a half years. And for no real reason, other than it makes me feel healthier.
I'm much more active, less miserable, less sluggish and generally happier since i've stopped eating meat. That and the fact it jsut tastes bad anyway.
Luz108
03-25-2006, 07:17 PM
Vegatarians are muderers too. If you haven't learnt yet, plants are also living organisms.
Fucking murderers. Imagine how many peas you killed when you drink pea soup.
hanspaas
03-25-2006, 07:24 PM
vegetarians, go hang yourselves, you only live once have some fucking meat you pansys
xKrazix
03-25-2006, 07:26 PM
he he he you can't spell vegetarian...
Alyssa15
03-29-2006, 09:17 PM
im a vegan....and im 14 and i have been one since i was 9 or 10
MyGatSayBangBang
03-29-2006, 09:19 PM
from when i was born to age 12 i never touched meat.
Dimes_17
03-29-2006, 10:21 PM
mygatsaybangbng.. i wouldve never thoguht u WERE a vegitarian..and no im not making a rude comment.. cuz im tired of E-beefing wiht people.. waste f time. welcome to TS ..
spluto
03-29-2006, 10:31 PM
Vegetarian, first of all.
And I am, have been for years now. But starting this summer I'll be a pescatarian because lately I've had the uncontrollable craving for seafood.
And if you eat seafood, you're not a vegetarian. You're a pescatarian. Just to clear that up with everyone.
*mutters something nasty about Catholics and Lent and meat and seafood*
Vegatarians are muderers too. If you haven't learnt yet, plants are also living organisms.
Fucking murderers. Imagine how many peas you killed when you drink pea soup.
1.) i dont drink pea soup
2.) plants dont have central nervous systems like, i and the animals do. they don't feel pain.
3.) even if they did feel pain, at least i wouldnt cater to both forms.
4.) idiot!
stop the foodism people, it just shows how ignorant you are. i dont judge you so stop making stupid allegations.
MyGatSayBangBang
03-29-2006, 11:33 PM
ok dime thanx w/e yeah now i eat meat every day
Aimee__x
03-30-2006, 01:36 AM
Not to be mean or anything, but if you're a vegetarian then why do you buy meals that are made to look like meat products? :weirdlook
MyGatSayBangBang
03-30-2006, 02:42 PM
probly so they look normal and so they fit in when they eat lunch with their friends i guess.
Alix-
03-30-2006, 03:26 PM
I love dead animal, barbeque'd preferably.
Give me the meat baby.
Hoopla
03-30-2006, 05:32 PM
I have nothing agaisnt vegetarians or vegans.
They can eat and do whatever they want. I don't have a problem with it.
It's just that when I start being called a bad, cruel person I take offense to it.
I'm not a bad person. I'm not the one killing the animals. I just eat them. And I only eat lean meat. Not the fatty junk. I eat a well balanced diet from all the food groups. So, I'm just as healthy as you vegetarians or vegans think you are.
Just because you don't eat meat doesn't make you automatically healthy. If you live in North America, the majority of food is inorganic, including vegetables. There's not much getting around it unless you grow your own food.
You don't see people who eat meat going out and protesting to get people to continue to eat meat or flip vegetarians/vegans. So, I don't see why vegetarians and vegans have to.
Anyway, that's my two cents. I'm not looking for a fight. I just wanted to add my opinion. This vegetarian/vegan vs. people who eat meat argument has been done to death. And there hasn't been too many minds changed in the process.
MyGatSayBangBang
03-30-2006, 08:42 PM
Seriously, if you dont eat meat , and teach your kids not to eat meat you will end up like an indian person. skinney.
chic_on_fire
03-30-2006, 09:15 PM
^ it sure as hell beats being obese.
I'm not a veggie. I rather enjoy eating animals. I could never give up meat. Thats wack.
morbidlyME
03-31-2006, 01:17 PM
HEY IM NEW... BUT I HAVE BEEN A VEGITARIAN SINCE ABOUT 9
Dreamesque
03-31-2006, 01:24 PM
If everybody was a vegetarian there'd be no rainforests.
rocin_rabbit
03-31-2006, 01:24 PM
im not a vegetarian but i love my veg
i can def more easily live on that than meat
Junior-17
03-31-2006, 02:21 PM
it seems vegeterians are less at risk from many health risk like high blood pressure, diabetes, and obesity...it seems most of these health risk can be still reduced from eating meat by simply getting of you lazy butt and exercise. but i'm glad vegeterians have taken a healthy step...just don't try to convince me...i love my meat and never will i stop eating it. I need it as well...i'd rather not worry about my high calorie intake..if i was a vegeterian and focus on my sports.
caaaaaath
03-31-2006, 03:24 PM
as long as you don't say : im a vegeterian because i don't want to kill living things...because when you eat plants you're killing a living thing...
SnugglePounceBaby
04-07-2006, 04:32 PM
Hey guys. Whats up? Anyway, out of curiousity, how many of you are veg? How long have you been like such and why did you go?
Plus, whats your horror stories?
I'm Steph and I've been vegetarian since October 2005. I went vegetarian because I couldn't stand the thought of eating something that died scared but because it was a healthy alternative to fat and grease and a good thing to obsess over instead of my exboyfriend who broke up with me around that time.
SnugglePounceBaby
04-07-2006, 04:41 PM
Woah...What happened?
haligh
04-07-2006, 04:43 PM
this is all i have to say
lmao
Thats not very creative
Kind of stupid actually.
haligh
04-07-2006, 04:48 PM
I've been a vegetarian for almost 2 years.
Just cause chewing on flesh is kinda fucked up.
morbidangel696
04-07-2006, 05:32 PM
Vegetarian for two years. Started off with animal rights, but now I can't stand the sight of meat so it's kinda that as well.
SnugglePounceBaby
04-07-2006, 05:51 PM
I agree, I feel like vomiting when my parents eat chicken...ugh just the idea of their teeth tearing through the flesh that not too long ago was soaked in blood...
Gag
Postlapsaria
04-08-2006, 10:47 PM
I am vegan, have been so for.. 6 months or so. :) Originally I do think it was for the environment, but after reading lots of websites and books like Diet for a New America, animals (duh?) and health came into it in a big way and sort of took over the environmental phase. Not to mention how it would help the issue of world hunger, and probably some other benefits I can't remember. Basically I just found so many pros and so few cons that it just seemed right. :)
as long as you don't say : im a vegeterian because i don't want to kill living things...because when you eat plants you're killing a living thing...
plants dont have nervous systems, so they dont feel pain.
and as for the 'horror' stories, i was at a chinese resturant the other day and the people kept telling me "oh our eggrolls have no meat!!" so i tore it open in the middle just to check, it looked fine, took a bite into A BIG CHUNK OF PORK FAT.
fucking nasty.
crackrocksteady9-11
04-08-2006, 10:58 PM
Completely vegan, or at least as much so as I can manage. I did it for moral reasons, I see no need for meat in my life, or any types of animal by-products. It's been about two years.
PaPa_SMuRF
04-09-2006, 03:37 AM
i've gone from eating any kind of meat i could get my hands on daily, to wanting to vomit at the mere smell of a burger or piece of chicken.
in 6 months.
Kyra69
04-20-2006, 08:51 PM
Vege, quite a while now... didn't like the idea of killing the animals...
i'm not really good at sticking to things, but i used to LOVE eating roasts, burgurs, CHICKEN!!! my parents said i woldn't be able to do it, they refused to cook anything for me anymore, i had to cook totally for myself, if they have something vege like rice and vegies im not even allowed to eat it.
Basically long story short, they tried to convince me i was hopeless and couldnt do anything... now lets see, its been at least 4 years without meat... hmm...a little more faith in ppl would be nice
Theramore
04-20-2006, 09:30 PM
It's unnatural to be a vegetarian.
Animals eat other animals, humans are animals and we are designed to eat other animals.
The reason we have eyes at the front of out head is because we are predators and not prey.
The reason we have the types of teeth we have is because we are designed to eat meat.
Vegetarianism is defying nature. It's damaging your health.
Anyone who brings their child us as a vegetarian should be done for child abuse.
Seriously.
Your kidding me right?
Anaemia, appendicitis, arthritis, breast cancer, cancer of the colon, cancer of the prostate, constipation, diabetes, gall stones, gout, high blood pressure, indigestion, obesity, piles, strokes and varicose veins are just some of the well known disorders which are more likely to affect meat eaters than vegetarians.
Add to those hazards the fact that if you eat meat, you may be consuming hormones, drugs and other chemicals that have been fed to the animals before they were killed. No one knows precisely what effect eating the hormones in meat is likely to have on your health. Some farmers use tranquillisers to keep animals calm. Others routinely use antibiotics so that their animals do not develop infections. When you eat meat you are, inevitably, eating those drugs.
And so you would willingly encourage your child to eat all of that? And you say vegetarians, veggie loving children should be taken away huh? Ridiculous.
Miss_Magesty
04-20-2006, 09:35 PM
Yes.
7 years ago (age of 11)
It's more of a lifestyle thing than a "throw paint at people wearing fur coats" kinda thing now. I just don't like meat. End of.
Mr_Dude
04-20-2006, 09:39 PM
i love animals. they're delicious.
queenvpop
04-20-2006, 09:40 PM
I've been a vegie person since 2004 I'm protesting againest animal rights :)
NextrockyMarciano
05-05-2006, 04:16 PM
1 year
Slaughter House abuse(inhumane slaughtering)
P.S. people just yell at vegetarians because they dont have the willpower to do it cuz they're fatties, and they just make excuses so they dont look like a jerk for not doing it. Like when you lose at basketball and SAy, yeah well I hurt my arm yesterday) for those of you losers that say that, too.
NextrockyMarciano
05-05-2006, 04:22 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Also in adition to my last reply, people dis vegetarians because They're too dependant on animals for food. I.e. They're not Smart enough to know how to keep themselves alive without killing something else. (Also, for health beneifits and all the guys who say they eat meat for protein for muscle) The USDA reccomends 50g per day. 25 is more than enough, If you have adequate Amino acids, and vitamin nutrition your body will produce its own, And sense it came from your body it will react to your body better than some from say a cows abs.
ALSO WHAT I MAINLY WAS GOPING TO WRITE IS- Vegetable protein, when built as muscle, is 8-12 timeas stronger than people whos muscles are from steak (pound for pound) Thats why little kids that dont eat meat can pick you up, even tho you weigh 300 lbs. Cuz ur a fatty whoes too weak to give up a certain type of food. Think of it, Animal protein is already used. Vegetable protein has yet to be used as muscle yet.
LookiePenguin
05-05-2006, 04:23 PM
i love animals. they're delicious.
Aren't you hilarious, please, could you dumbasses ever get some new material.
WoollyMammoth
05-05-2006, 04:57 PM
people just yell at vegetarians because they dont have the willpower to do it cuz they're fatties
LMFAO. Uh, I have an eating disorder, I'm almost 5'8" and 102 lbs. I'm against vegetarianism. Wanna call me fatty, babe? Cause I'll just laugh at you.
Xxweird_freakxX
05-05-2006, 07:31 PM
I was a vegetarian for most of last year, but i decided to start eating meat again over the summer holidays.
DarknessIsMyMiddleName
05-05-2006, 09:06 PM
i've been since the second grade i watched a video in school during like an agriculture week and so we watched how meat was processed and i got grossed our so i nvr ate meat again...which is hard cuz my mom cooks meat in evry meal
Cassie_Died
05-05-2006, 11:40 PM
I'm a Vegetarian because my body doesn't digest meat mainly because since i was born i have never eaten meat, my parents are vegetarians and so i wasn't given the choice, but now i cant just start eating it or i would get really sick
TwistedMetaphor
05-05-2006, 11:43 PM
I am a vegitarian. Have been for 4 years.
I think its disgusting to eat a corpse, or any part of a corpse.
Animals have just as many rights as my neighbor, my sister, or my best friend.
(any members of PETA / Animal Activists in the Northern KY/Lower OH area send me a message)
weirdo_with_a_popsicle
05-05-2006, 11:47 PM
Been partly a vegitarian for 5 years. Started because I knew pigs were smarter than dogs, then I thought about not eating cows either, and it extended to any kind of meat; I eat chicken, though. I tried to go without it, but got really sick and the doctor said i needed some kind of protein in my diet.
haligh
05-05-2006, 11:48 PM
I am a vegitarian. Have been for 4 years.
I think its disgusting to eat a corpse, or any part of a corpse.
Animals have just as many rights as my neighbor, my sister, or my best friend.
(any members of PETA / Animal Activists in the Northern KY/Lower OH area send me a message)
Word :D.
coryza
05-06-2006, 12:12 AM
LMFAO. Uh, I have an eating disorder, I'm almost 5'8" and 102 lbs. I'm against vegetarianism. Wanna call me fatty, babe? Cause I'll just laugh at you.
aginst vegetarianism but for eating disorders?
that sounds so wonderful, where are the pamphlets!
LookiePenguin
05-06-2006, 01:21 AM
LMFAO. Uh, I have an eating disorder, I'm almost 5'8" and 102 lbs. I'm against vegetarianism. Wanna call me fatty, babe? Cause I'll just laugh at you.
Does it make you feel better to waste an animal by puking it up? I don't quite understand how you can be against vegetarianism, it's not like anyone is forcing you to become one. I'm not even against meat eaters, I just won't eat it.
SilverBanshee
05-06-2006, 07:40 AM
I have an eating disorder... I'm against vegetarianism.
If you have an eating disorder you're probably against eating, too. If that's the case, what difference would being a non-vegetarian make! :D
WoollyMammoth
05-06-2006, 11:34 AM
Does it make you feel better to waste an animal by puking it up? I don't quite understand how you can be against vegetarianism, it's not like anyone is forcing you to become one. I'm not even against meat eaters, I just won't eat it.
There's a difference between anorexia and bulimia.
I would never, ever tell someone or advise someone to stop eating.
I'm recovered, I know the value of every source of nutrients you can get. It's funny how little middle class white teens have the option to choose between eating meat or not, and the other half of the world doesn't. They don't have a choice on what they eat, or drink.
I think it's selfish if you're not doing it for health reasons. The meat industry is producing meat everyday, it will never, ever change. So pretty much what you're doing is wasting food. I'm sure you'll say something along the lines of me wasting food also, but me not eating gives the rest of my family a chance to eat more.
Anorexia = selfishness. Maybe, but I'm over it. I forgive myself, and I' m on such a good path right now, I love my life.
Don't get me wrong, I love animals a lot. Whenever I see someone mistreating one, I pretty much cry. But this is the way it is.
OpalsAndPearls
05-06-2006, 11:57 AM
The most embarassing thing i have to admit is that i am a vegetarian. Iv been one for about 2 years , not because i think that people shouldnt eat meat because it is natural for humans to do so but just because for some reason i started to hate the taste texuture, smell. Everythin about it. I was repulsed by it every time it was put on my plate. It sounds stupid but i suddenly realised that i was eating a dead body and that just brought so many mingin pictures in to my head. Anyways a lotta people make fun of vegetarians but there are many different reasons ppl giv up meat or choose not to eat it
Beep-Beep
05-06-2006, 12:18 PM
I hate when vegetarians try and persuade me to be one.
I really respect people who are vegatarians & their feelings towards it so why can't they respect my feelings.
Pfft.
art-n-music-4-life
05-28-2006, 12:37 AM
i've never heard of pescatarian. so if that means you eat seafood, but no other meat is there a word for no sea food but other meat. i am not at all vegetarian or vegan, but i refuse to go near any kind of seafood...and what is the diference between vegan and vegetarian (that may be a dumb question)... i don't understand how being vegan actually saves animals
SilverBanshee
05-28-2006, 12:53 AM
what is the diference between vegan and vegetarian (that may be a dumb question)... i don't understand how being vegan actually saves animals
A vegetarian doesn't eat meat or fish.
A vegan doesn't eat meat OR any products originating from animals (eg eggs, milk, cheese etc), and usually vegans won't buy products made from animals like leather or silk.
acceber182
05-28-2006, 07:17 AM
I've very recently become vegeterian, partially because I adore animals and will kill any bastard I see abusing animals, and partially because I have an eating disorder and it's the best way to avoid gaining weight.
Invizab1eONE
05-28-2006, 09:13 AM
im vegetarian.
acceber182
05-28-2006, 05:57 PM
www.peta2.com
The "Goriest Video" should be enough to make anyone go vegetarian.
Candy-xo
05-30-2006, 04:45 PM
yes i dnt no how long and i became one because i never really ate meat anyway because i dont like a l0ot of it and the only think i did like was chicken but then i decided after watching a programme that i no longer wanted to eat it
pynkcup
05-30-2006, 04:46 PM
me!!!!!!!
let_it_bleed101
05-30-2006, 09:29 PM
im a veggie!! ive only been fer 5 months though
let_it_bleed101
05-30-2006, 09:32 PM
I've very recently become vegeterian, partially because I adore animals and will kill any bastard I see abusing animals, and partially because I have an eating disorder and it's the best way to avoid gaining weight.
not good. not good at all. thumbs down.
Ally2292
05-30-2006, 09:37 PM
i used to be a vegetarian like 5 years ago for like a year and a half. i now only eat chicken. i didnt like eating meat--thats why i was one.
FOB_4_ME
05-30-2006, 10:00 PM
I've been a vegetarian since the begining of this year, and oddly I've been very active in animal rights for longer than I've been a veghead. I do eat fish, but rarely. My mom practicaly shoves it down my throat once a month for that omega fish vitamin w/e.
As for those who say it's bad for your health, you obviously didnt eat right. Humans aren't originaly carnivoris, our canine teeth are a mutation. Yes, this has been found by scientists.
I think it completely wrong that a living thing should have to die so our taste buds can be happy. Humans are at the top of the food chain, which means we have a choice. I'm not completely against those who go out and kill to feed their families and actually use the rest of the body, but I am against factory farming and such. It's wrong, and a waste of life.
Animals are just like us. They strive to live and do what is nessesary to get by. They have families and they function just like we do. They are defensless and we should not have the right to take advantage of this.
As for those anti-vegies, I hope you are a chicken in you next life so you can see how horrible KFC is.
vermont
05-30-2006, 10:14 PM
i've been a vegetarian for almost six years.
i dont support Peta at all.
i dont really care what others eat. some people were meant to be vegetarians/vegans, some arent. just as some animals are carnivors and other arent.
for the person above me, if someone were reborn as a chicken it's not like they'd remember the pain they went through when they're reborn again as a human, you dont remember you pasts lives, do you?
FOB_4_ME
05-30-2006, 10:17 PM
i've been a vegetarian for almost six years.
i dont support Peta at all.
i dont really care what others eat. some people were meant to be vegetarians/vegans, some arent. just as some animals are carnivors and other arent.
for the person above me, if someone were reborn as a chicken it's not like they'd remember the pain they went through when they're reborn again as a human, you dont remember you pasts lives, do you?
I can see why you might not support PETA, I didnt until recently when I really took a good look and researched the organization.
As for the chicken thing, I say that to everyone. I know they wont remember it, I just mean that they should indore the pain the poor animals have to go through, seeing as they obviously dont care.
blackeyelinerandglitter
05-31-2006, 10:02 AM
I am a vegetarian. I started when I was in the 8th grade...and now I am in the 11th (until my last day of school) so you figure that one out!
blackeyelinerandglitter
05-31-2006, 10:04 AM
I think everyone is doing it now...it's become a fad. I do it for the animals...and I do it for myself not because i think it's "cool" and so "hardcore"...by the way try reading "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair...that'll make anyone not want to eat meat...or anything factory manufactured for that matter :cry:
im_15_m_newcastle_msn
05-31-2006, 10:15 AM
Heck ive been a vegi all my life thats 17 years im healthy and people who say that their a vegie for animal rights ST*U... animals are suposed to be eaten if you dont like other people eating meat then fine... the only reason im a vegi is because im used to it... ive been to slaughter houses and laughed wow a bunch of animals being riped apart...
CitrusPassion
05-31-2006, 10:38 AM
iv been a vegetarian for about 2 years nuthing to do with animal rights its just because all off a sudden i started to really hate the taste of meat, so i dont eat meat becoze i dnt like it
Praeco_Noctis
05-31-2006, 10:47 AM
Is it just me, or are more women vegetarian than men? It seems to be in my own experience.
I've been a vegetarian since the begining of this year, and oddly I've been very active in animal rights for longer than I've been a veghead. I do eat fish, but rarely. My mom practicaly shoves it down my throat once a month for that omega fish vitamin w/e. I don't understand this… surely eating fish is just as wrong?
As for those who say it's bad for your health, you obviously didnt eat right. Humans aren't originaly carnivoris, our canine teeth are a mutation. Yes, this has been found by scientists. [/quote] Our entire selves are a mutation. We are designed to eat meat, whether or not you choose to is a matter of morality, that other human thing.
I think it completely wrong that a living thing should have to die so our taste buds can be happy. Humans are at the top of the food chain, which means we have a choice. I'm not completely against those who go out and kill to feed their families and actually use the rest of the body, but I am against factory farming and such. It's wrong, and a waste of life. Are you saying you're okay with free range stuff?
Animals are just like us. They strive to live and do what is nessesary to get by. They have families and they function just like we do. They are defensless and we should not have the right to take advantage of this. Surely this (http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explorations/03windows/logs/jul28/media/worm_clam_600.jpg) is less important in the hierarchy than that (http://www.exzooberance.com/virtual%20zoo/they%20walk/gorilla/Gorilla%20485077.jpg)? Although I do agree that unnecessary cruelty to animals is inexcusable.
As for those anti-vegies, I hope you are a chicken in you next life so you can see how horrible KFC is. I wanna be a free range chicken, is that okay?
MaxBanks
06-04-2006, 07:22 AM
Nope, and Don't plan to be either
Hedley
06-04-2006, 07:23 AM
Been one since I was five or six.
cjk91
06-04-2006, 07:32 AM
Nah, I'm not stupid enough to voluntarialy malnourish myself.
art-n-music-4-life
06-11-2006, 05:42 PM
www.angelfire.com/planet/hiddensoul/endanimalcruelty
MissMurder
06-11-2006, 08:51 PM
I've been one for around 6 or so years, and I'm seventeen...so around 11...
I choose to be... because I dislike meat and/or its taste..
Its better if you know how to get the things you usually get from meat, from alternate recources.
I'm not a vegetarian.
But I disagree eating wild animals.
arkham_asylum
06-11-2006, 10:52 PM
I've been a vegetarian for about 4 years, cause I was tired of being fat, and overweight.
So far not eating meat has really changed my weight...but however I still ate alot of dairy, and some weight started to come back.
So I started to become a vegan.
Its been REALLY hard, so at time I would be a vegan, and not be a vegan. But this time I am a strick vegan, and I always will be. :)
Zofee
06-12-2006, 06:31 AM
I've been a vegetarian since like 4 years.And the reason i became one was cause i just hate the taste of meat and the thought of eating something that has been alive.Never been fond of meat anyway so it wasn't really hard..
SawyersBrother
06-12-2006, 02:26 PM
teenage vegetarians?
italian_bitch
06-12-2006, 02:27 PM
I'm a former vegetarian.
I did it for two years.
rising_son
06-12-2006, 02:28 PM
look, let me make something
abundantly clear for people
who are so bereft of activities
they feel like they gotta comment on mine.
first of all being a vegetarian should
never be associated with being
a revolutionary or being open-minded.
that's a dietary choice.
if someone wants to proliferate the
type of ignorance we're supposed to
be fighting by thinking that,
you're just fucking yourself.
i don't go around promoting
beef and poetry shoving it in
people's faces.
i don't castigate people for not
eating steak sandwiches;
and i would never diss someone
for being a fucking broccoli-head,
or living off of radishes,
or eating grass or tofu.
i like a lot of vegan cuisine.
but the illogicality of expecting
everyone to adopt their particular
idea of what being healthy is
is just preposterous.
i've seen some of you herbivores;
and if you want to argue health,
y'all need to eat some kind of supplement
because some of y'all are so skinny
that it's disgusting; looking like the
only hip-hop motherfuckers on schindler's list.
being a malnutrition-ass got nothing to do
with being revolutionary or being on-point.
i'll be damned if i let somebody else push
their agenda on me. you know i don't eat pork,
not because i'm a muslim, i just don't
really like it, but i really will
fuck a bird up. and fish is good
when that shit is fresh. it's like my nucca
_____ from ______. if you don't like
the smell of burning meat, well then get
the fuck off the planet. you know i don't
criticize people for eating moss,
then don't open your fucking mouth
about my food, man. i like beef
and broccoli motherfucker. mind
your god-damn business. matter of fact...
you know what? i'm out. i feel like some
arroco pollo, a banana daiquiri, and
a motherfucking bistec aponado
.
SawyersBrother
06-12-2006, 02:29 PM
some meat is actually healthy for you
Nightwish
06-12-2006, 04:37 PM
.
I've posted that before, and obviously agree.
I just didn't know some of the words used at the end. Why are the blank lines there?
rising_son
06-12-2006, 05:34 PM
I've posted that before, and obviously agree.
I just didn't know some of the words used at the end. Why are the blank lines there?
I didn't notice those... :(
I copied and pasted it from a lyrics site, so I guess the site either censored out those particular words ot they're unsure of what Tech says....
Hes on point as usual though...
Nightwish
06-12-2006, 05:37 PM
I don't know why they'd censor out "Vast Aire" and "Can Ox". Copyright bullshit? Who knows.
I envy your ability to find a lyrics site with that song. I actually typed them out. >.<
rising_son
06-12-2006, 05:44 PM
Thats insane....
Must have been a new release at the time...
xbabiixgiirlx
06-16-2006, 03:31 PM
I use to be one. But not for the reason of the animals just i never liked the taste. But i have anemia so have to eat iron and as im having a child i need to make sure im healthy so i now eat as much red meat as i can :D to help me.+
coryza
06-16-2006, 04:19 PM
I'm not a vegetarian.
But I disagree eating wild animals.
wow, thats pretty.
just, wow. :)
idiotic, thats the word im looking for.
cjk91
06-16-2006, 04:22 PM
Being a vegetarian is fine. I have nothing against people voluntarily malnourishing themselves. As long as they don't inflict that upon their children, I have no issues.
beka_etc
06-16-2006, 05:25 PM
^ it's not malnourishing, you can be completely healthy and be vegetarian, everything you get from meat you can get from other sources pretty much. Protien deficiency is one of the more common problems that can occur but it's very simple to avoid these. Eat more foods with protein!
Anyhows, I've been a vegetarian for going on a year and 4 months, haven't ever had any problems, I would have become one before but my parents said i was too young to make up my mind about such important things at 13-14 so I just ate as little meat as possible and tried not to think about it.
Why I became a one? Animal rights, didn't like the taste, now if I eat meat I throw up as a combination of self disgust and just grossness.
I'm thinking of going vegan, I've been doing some research but that's when malnutrition seems to become more prominent, I'll probably have to wait until I leave home to do that anyways..
White_Chocolate420
06-16-2006, 06:07 PM
Hypertension is a result of cholesterol and obesity, and certainly isn't indicative of meat consumption by itself. Fiber largely handles cholesterol in the body when it comes to removal.
Heart disease is an issue of obesity, not eating meat.
Cancer has nothing to do with eating meat.
Gallstones is an occurance of uric acid build-up due to improper hydration. Only occurs if the person is chronically dehydrated.
The only food-borne illness of mention is e.coli (mad cow), and even then it isn't a large threat.
i dont know if something similar has been said but heart disease is an issue of obesity and it does has some sort of connection to eating meat. eating meat causes obesity so it does have something to do with eating meat just so ya know.
cancer does have something to do with eating meat. not all cancer but i know eating beef cause colon cancer.
White_Chocolate420
06-16-2006, 06:16 PM
im not 100% sure about this. i just heard this well i read it on the internet somewhere.
White_Chocolate420
06-16-2006, 06:20 PM
i already posted i was a vegetarian and its been 8 months. lately i have been tempted to eat some ribs cuz i remember how good they tasted and my dad eats them in front of me. but i dont think i would ever give in. but i have been debating it. bit i doubt i will .i just thought i would share ths with you all.
White_Chocolate420
06-16-2006, 06:21 PM
Hypertension is a result of cholesterol and obesity, and certainly isn't indicative of meat consumption by itself. Fiber largely handles cholesterol in the body when it comes to removal.
Heart disease is an issue of obesity, not eating meat.
Cancer has nothing to do with eating meat.
Gallstones is an occurance of uric acid build-up due to improper hydration. Only occurs if the person is chronically dehydrated.
The only food-borne illness of mention is e.coli (mad cow), and even then it isn't a large threat.
i dont know if something similar has been said but heart disease is an issue of obesity and it does has some sort of connection to eating meat. eating meat causes obesity so it does have something to do with eating meat just so ya know.
cancer does have something to do with eating meat. not all cancer but i know eating beef cause colon cancer.
xbabiixgiirlx
06-16-2006, 06:31 PM
May i also add that your avatar looks yummi
cjk91
06-17-2006, 05:34 AM
Humans are designed to eat meat. It's a natural thing to do.
As for going vegan, ROFL! You must be absolutely out of your mind.
xX_Raylene_Xx
06-18-2006, 02:36 AM
Being a vegetarian and save the animals. hmmmmm. what the hell man. Would a fucking Turkey/chicken/cow/pig.... save you from a fucking fire or from drowning?? I think not. Why save it's life when it dosen't give a fuck about you in the first place??
notta-hottie
06-18-2006, 03:34 AM
Vegetarian. For no reason. Since like... I was 8.
Roryapril7
06-18-2006, 08:49 AM
me, but not because i care about animals or anything... i just don't like meat & my mom had a phase where she was very broke, so we could not afford meat... so i just got used to not eating it. i'll eat it if it's good though (tuna & chicken is good). or a part of a meal (but still good..)
but that's extremely rare. plus meat is too expensive here, so i just avoid it.
Make-me-pretty
06-18-2006, 08:04 PM
I've been vegetarian for not even a year. I started b-cuz of animal rights and it's also healthier, I've actually lost weight. :)
what3v3r
06-18-2006, 08:25 PM
I couldn't care less if you people are vegetarians. I do how ever get offended when vegetarians try to make people that eat meat sound like bad people. I've heard vegetarians call people disgusting for eating meat. If you're a vegetarian good that's perfectly fine with me and your choice. But when you bash on other people for not eating what you do or eating what you don't then that's when I will get angry.
tscash2K5
06-18-2006, 10:16 PM
I'm not exactly vegetarian, but I do prefer vegetables and fruit over meat.
mike_IL
06-19-2006, 01:14 AM
eat some meat assholes
Postlapsaria
06-19-2006, 04:58 AM
I don't know that eating meat causes cancer but excess protein can definitely increase the risk of cancer and it also makes your body excrete calcium, among lots of other things.
It's ironic how you always hear people going on about vegetarians trying to covnert everyone but I've never heard a vegetarian say "stop eating meat assholes". Sure, some vegetarians are rude (lets say it's due to the fact that it's in line with what they believe to be ethical) but I don't really understand why omnivores have any reason to get snappy at vegetarians (Unless they are being annoying and forecul, but no one here is, that I have noticed), they aren't doing anything (in terms of eating, of course) that meat eaters would find unethical.
Anyway, I've been vegan for over 6 months and I recently got a blood test and all my minderals and vitamins tested were within a normal range so.. so much for malnourished. :)
Roryapril7
06-19-2006, 08:08 AM
generally people tend to push their views on others.. vegetarians want meat eaters to quit eating meat, meat eaters want vegetarians to eat meat.. it gets annoying. same as when a religious someone wants you to convert to their religion, or an anorexic thinks everybody should be skin & bones. it's like that with everything, and you are most likely to get annoyed by things you disagree with and agree or ignore things you're ok with or agree with.
humans are stupid, that's why.
hovla
06-19-2006, 08:46 AM
I've been vegetarian for not even a year. I started b-cuz of animal rights and it's also healthier, I've actually lost weight. :)
so you actualy started to be vegeterian to lose weight because you canot do anything about animal rights -.-
cjk91
06-19-2006, 11:35 AM
This thread is annoying me. You're all idiots.
hovla
06-19-2006, 12:01 PM
This thread is annoying me. You're all idiots.
even me? :(
cjk91
06-19-2006, 12:40 PM
No, of course not you!
Praeco_Noctis
06-19-2006, 12:46 PM
Okay, the argument that animals have equal rights to humans really confuses me. I mean, an oyster is significantly lower down the creature hierarchy than a human - or a whale, for that matter. I mean, rights are inherent in the nature of things, so given that animals have vastly inferior natures to humans, then they'd have less rights.
Anyway, front teeth are designed for a reason. Rant over. I just don't like illogical arguments. :)
cjk91
06-19-2006, 01:00 PM
*applause*
hovla
06-19-2006, 01:20 PM
hmm i was wondering if those vegeterians love animals so much why the hell they are eating all their food?
cjk91
06-19-2006, 02:42 PM
hahah! I like it!
White_Chocolate420
06-19-2006, 03:49 PM
I couldn't care less if you people are vegetarians. I do how ever get offended when vegetarians try to make people that eat meat sound like bad people. I've heard vegetarians call people disgusting for eating meat. If you're a vegetarian good that's perfectly fine with me and your choice. But when you bash on other people for not eating what you do or eating what you don't then that's when I will get angry.
i never do that but i do get "bashed" for being a vegetrian at times.
White_Chocolate420
06-19-2006, 03:51 PM
hmm i was wondering if those vegeterians love animals so much why the hell they are eating all their food?
were not eating all their food. theres plenty of food for all of us.
White_Chocolate420
06-19-2006, 04:00 PM
Okay, the argument that animals have equal rights to humans really confuses me. I mean, an oyster is significantly lower down the creature hierarchy than a human - or a whale, for that matter. I mean, rights are inherent in the nature of things, so given that animals have vastly inferior natures to humans, then they'd have less rights.
Anyway, front teeth are designed for a reason. Rant over. I just don't like illogical arguments. :)
yeah i dont know about them having equal rights to humans but i do think they should have some rights that are resonable like they shouldnt be forced to do circus acts and others things like that. clearly they dont want to be whiped and shit like that and oviously an oyster is lower than a human but oysters arent exactly what we mean mostly farm animals and stuff like that. Even if they never get rights they should at least find a better way to kill them and not make them suffer .
hovla
06-19-2006, 05:49 PM
were not eating all their food. theres plenty of food for all of us.hmm you eat lot of plants so if all people start to be vegeterians animals would extinct.
anyway if you think its not good to eat animal meat how do you explain that animals eat each other?
Luz108
06-19-2006, 05:54 PM
I can't be vegetarian.
Meat is much too delicious. Where would the world be without ham, bacon, sausage, t-bone steaks, lobsters, gravy, and fried chicken?
hovla
06-19-2006, 06:40 PM
^^ i couldnt agree more
E-Pro
06-19-2006, 07:56 PM
Nah, I'm not.
Postlapsaria
06-20-2006, 03:35 AM
hmm i was wondering if those vegeterians love animals so much why the hell they are eating all their food?
Except that a meat eating diet uses more plants than a vegetarian diet, since a cow has to, you know, eat before it's killed for meat. It takes about 16 pounds of soybeans and grain to produce 1 pound of edible meat.
cjk91
06-20-2006, 06:25 AM
And I doubt any animal that could wouldn't give a second thought about "human rights" before it ate you.
PhantomLights
06-20-2006, 06:31 AM
Sorry if this has been asked before, but could someone tell me how the different animals are slaughtered. I am not a vegetarian I was just wondering how.
cjk91
06-20-2006, 07:05 AM
Usually with a knife to the throat. Very Quick.
cjk91
06-20-2006, 07:06 AM
And of course vegetarians will come on now with their propaganda material saying "no, they suffocate them" or "no, they impale them on barbed wire until they bleed to death".
Absolute bullshit.
PhantomLights
06-20-2006, 07:11 AM
My opinion is that although farm animals may feel instinctive pain, they don't really have the mental capacity to suffer in the same way a human would. This is especially true with smaller animals eg. birds.
cjk91
06-20-2006, 07:14 AM
I support fox hunting because I believe it's the most efficient and painless way of controlling vermin.
hovla
06-20-2006, 07:28 AM
mmm i just ate one realy bloody stake :D
swlzz
06-20-2006, 07:31 AM
yeah....hey someone should remove my k-line... thanks!
cjk91
06-20-2006, 07:32 AM
...?
ticia
06-20-2006, 01:41 PM
I'm a vegetarian and have been for almost 8 years.
That said, all of this arguing is stupid. If you want to eat meat, fine. If you don't, fine. Why in the hell everyone cares so much about what foods other people eat is beyond me.
cjk91
06-21-2006, 03:30 AM
Sorry to bring up old arguments... but it seems rather odd to me that a vegetarian would let doctors mutilate her son.
Perhaps I'm being naive.
femme_fatale
06-21-2006, 02:34 PM
9 years and going strong.
EAT ALL CARNIVORES!
(Only kidding.)
Alexia
06-21-2006, 04:31 PM
I'm a vegan and have been for probably about 8 years ...?
It's not because I think animals are treated cruely or anything like that (if that is how you feel, I respect that), but it's because I just am repulsed by the taste/smell/sight of meat.
:)
hovla
06-21-2006, 04:41 PM
I'm a vegan and have been for probably about 8 years ...?
It's not because I think animals are treated cruely or anything like that (if that is how you feel, I respect that), but it's because I just am repulsed by the taste/smell/sight of meat.
:)
was that your choice? are your parents vegeterians/vegans?
just interested no offence
femme_fatale
06-21-2006, 07:14 PM
I'm a vegan and have been for probably about 8 years ...?
It's not because I think animals are treated cruely or anything like that (if that is how you feel, I respect that), but it's because I just am repulsed by the taste/smell/sight of meat.
:)
Well what has the "taste/smell/sight of meat" got to do with not eating dairy products?
White_Chocolate420
06-21-2006, 07:20 PM
Well what has the "taste/smell/sight of meat" got to do with not eating dairy products?
i think she was just adding she is a vegan becuase i the question is any vegetrians and its pretty close to being a vegetrian.
femme_fatale
06-21-2006, 07:29 PM
I just don't understand why she's a vegan if she's not into animal rights of any form.
White_Chocolate420
06-21-2006, 07:36 PM
well some ppl do it for health reasons or they were just raised as one but yeah other then that im not really sure why
cjk91
06-22-2006, 03:26 AM
Sigh... there are no "health reasons" for opting to eat an unnatural, unhuman diet.
evh_48
06-22-2006, 06:10 AM
Vegetarian for 8 years and going. Dad's one so it's not hard at all. Basically haven't eaten meat my entire life.
Back in the old times my Great Grandad was working in a meat factory and he put his hand in a slicer and lost it...They couldn't throw away the entire batch cause that would be a big loss, so basically someone ate his hand.
Even though animals don't think the same as us they should have basic rights to live.
Yes.
evh_48
06-22-2006, 06:11 AM
Sigh... there are no "health reasons" for opting to eat an unnatural, unhuman diet.
So you're basically saying that your diet consists of only meat...
Good luck with your bowel mate.
ticia
06-22-2006, 06:28 AM
Sorry to bring up old arguments... but it seems rather odd to me that a vegetarian would let doctors mutilate her son.
Perhaps I'm being naive.
Or, perhaps you're just being an idiot..?
What does the types of food that I choose to stick in my mouth have to do with me having had my son circumcised? How are either of those issues any business of yours?
femme_fatale
06-22-2006, 06:44 AM
Back in the old times my Great Grandad was working in a meat factory and he put his hand in a slicer and lost it...They couldn't throw away the entire batch cause that would be a big loss, so basically someone ate his hand.
EEEUUUGGGHHH!!!
cjk91
06-22-2006, 06:50 AM
Time for me to push the large cross in the corner of my screen...
cjk91
06-22-2006, 07:05 AM
So you're basically saying that your diet consists of only meat...
Good luck with your bowel mate.
No, I never said that. :rolleyes:
cjk91
06-22-2006, 07:06 AM
Or, perhaps you're just being an idiot..?
What does the types of food that I choose to stick in my mouth have to do with me having had my son circumcised? How are either of those issues any business of yours?
You're quite right, they're absolutely nothing to do with me. I am a great believer in people keeping their noses out of things that don't affect them.
It's slightly different because your son didn't exactly have a choice.
I hope you're not raising him as a vegetarian.
ticia
06-22-2006, 07:53 AM
You're quite right, they're absolutely nothing to do with me. I am a great believer in people keeping their noses out of things that don't affect them.
It's slightly different because your son didn't exactly have a choice.
I hope you're not raising him as a vegetarian.
I'm still not seeing the connection between him being circumcised and me not eating meat...?
His being circumcised- He doesn't have a choice about a lot of things. That's one of the big disadvantages (or advantages...depending on how you look at it) of being a kid. He has to take his medicine even if he doesn't want to, has to have his immunizations even if, on his own, he'd choose not to, etc. So, no, he didn't have a choice about being circumcised any more than he had a choice about anything else. As his mother, I made that choice for him. That's my job.
His not eating meat- My husband eats meat so, even though I don't eat it, I still cook it every night for dinner. I put the same things on my son's plate as are on my husband's plate (though, obviously, in smaller amounts...). But, ironically enough, he won't eat meat. He never has liked it...and it has nothing to do with me. I give it to him and encourage him to eat it. He won't. So, I guess he chose the vegetarian thing on his own.
cjk91
06-22-2006, 10:32 AM
In my humble opinion there is quite a difference between ensuring your son has his medication and him having part of his body unnecessarily removed (in fact, removed against the recommendations of the developed world's medical organisations).
If I recall, when I was younger I didn't like brocolli, but my parents ensured I ate it and I'm actually quite fond of it now.
Scenexoxo
06-22-2006, 10:56 AM
I am.
Because my friend Matthew is one, && he's
so adorable so i followed him.
ticia
06-22-2006, 10:59 AM
In my humble opinion there is quite a difference between ensuring your son has his medication and him having part of his body unnecessarily removed (in fact, removed against the recommendations of the developed world's medical organisations).
If I recall, when I was younger I didn't like brocolli, but my parents ensured I ate it and I'm actually quite fond of it now.
I don't really see much difference between forcing him to have immunizations and forcing him to be circumcised. They both come with potential risks and potential benefits. Both are things that I could have chosen not to do and let him make his own decision about as he got older. Point is, it was my decision and I made the decision based upon what I thought was best for him. As much as I hate watching him get his shots (I cry more than he does most of the time...it's kind of pathetic actually), I still hold him down while the doctor gives it to him because that's what I think is best for him. It's basically the same thing with having him circumcised. There will always be someone who disagrees with anything and everything I do. But, as his mother, it's up to me to do what I think is best- not what everyone else tells me I should do. If you ever have a little boy, I'm sure you'll do what you think is best...and I'll be sure to keep my humble opinions about how you parent your child to myself.
Are you suggesting I force him to eat meat and hope that he just grows to like it when he's older? Heh. That's not going to happen. He can decide for himself what foods he likes and doesn't. Being a vegetarian myself, I'm not in any position to force meat into his mouth. Not to mention, have you ever tried forcing a toddler to eat something that they didn't want? Here's a tip: if they don't want to eat it...they won't. So long as he stays healthy, I'm not forcing any certain foods into him. I could care less if he wants to eat meat or not. It's not going to hurt him either way.
White_Chocolate420
06-22-2006, 11:25 AM
Sigh... there are no "health reasons" for opting to eat an unnatural, unhuman diet.
its not unnatural. eating a veg*n diet isnt unnatural.
cjk91
06-22-2006, 12:10 PM
its not unnatural. eating a veg*n diet isnt unnatural.
Yes, it is.
Kanevra
06-23-2006, 01:53 PM
I have been a veg. for more than 5 yrs.
Mike5055
06-23-2006, 01:55 PM
Yes, it is.
We agree on something.
Humans were made to be omnivores. Removing all meat goes against what nature intended for us.
Ashtynnnn
06-23-2006, 02:00 PM
I am. It started a while ago, when i was driving and i saw a semi full of pigs on their way to dying. Yes cheesey but i can't help it, ever since i stopped eating meat.
I almost became vegan but i can't give up cheese.
Postlapsaria
06-24-2006, 12:58 AM
We agree on something.
Humans were made to be omnivores. Removing all meat goes against what nature intended for us.
Because nature really intended for us to drink another creatures milk. Even though no other creature on earth drinks the milk of another species. And no other creature on earth drinks any milk after weaning. I also doubt that nature 'intended' for us to rip up the environment through the meat industry. Or that we would create a 'meat industry' anyway, where animals are mistreated their whole lives, not just in the killing. Where they (this is more chickens than cows) are crammed into tiny cages and hardly allowed to move around (even 'free range', yes). I doubt any of that was in natures big 'plan'.
Perhaps if times were as they were long ago, when men would hunt animals, we would be more true to the food chain and what nature 'intended' and I might reconsider. But at the moment I have absolutely no need for meat, in fact I'm doing great without it, so there's no reason for me to eat it, no matter how "unnatural" it is.
cjk91
06-24-2006, 03:33 AM
No, 'nature' meant for there to be a food chain, 'nature' meant for humans to walk on two legs, be able to use their hands and therefore develop a larger brain, 'nature' meant for us to use that brain for our survival.
cjk91
06-28-2006, 11:59 AM
Cool. This has been put in the new Food and Cooking forum.
I officially declare this forum as my place for raising my post count.
Cyberqueen
06-28-2006, 05:12 PM
i used to eat veggie school dinners at primary, but that meant you were constantly eating cheese flan, so i quit!
cass87
06-28-2006, 09:36 PM
I am a vegetarian, and its one of the best choices I have ever made in my life. Ive been one for about 3-4 years. I was actually inspired to become one by River Phoenix because he is my idol, and was a strict vegan. I have also always loved animals and couldnt bear the thought of killing them for food. I lost A LOT of weight when I made the switch. I tried becoming vegan, but there was nothing I could eat because Im really picky and it just was not healthy. I eat a lot of weird foods, and its really hard for me to gain weight because of my diet, but I wouldnt have it any other way.
black-moon
06-29-2006, 11:59 AM
Just wondering id anyone out there is also a vegie, like for how long and why you started
Yes i'm a Veggie and i have been since i was 5yo
and i started because i found out what meat was!
cjk91
06-29-2006, 12:05 PM
Yes i'm a Veggie and i have been since i was 5yo
and i started because i found out what meat was!
What... a perfectly normal part of a human being's diet? God no!
OneLastKissx3
06-29-2006, 11:06 PM
im semi-veg. i'll eat eggs and things like that and i'll eat poultry occasionaly. i just hate the taste of meat.
cjk91
06-30-2006, 12:23 PM
im semi-veg. i'll eat eggs and things like that and i'll eat poultry occasionaly. i just hate the taste of meat.
You're like my sister. She just doesn't like the taste.. which I suppose is fair enough. She will eat chicken and turkey... and burnt sasuages.
keeta_xo
04-09-2007, 11:12 PM
I've been a vegetarian only for a few months though. I prefer it actaully, i havne't gotten sick from it or anything, i feel beter then i did before. As for going as far as "throwing red paint at peopel wearing fur coats" I think that's a little ridculous, if they want to wear it, let them. I also don't like the taste of meat that much, and when i did eat meat, the only thing i really ate was chicken, fish and sometimes steak. I'm still eating fish for the vitamins and such. Also, if your going to complain about vegetarians, here's a very easy solution, don't go on every single vegetarian or vegan board, cause your only pissing people off. As for the vegetarians being bitchy about the whole "they eat meat, there wrong" or whatever your argument may be. It's there choice to eat meat, not yours, you did what you want, now let them eat what they want. I'm sure everyone has there difference, it's easier to just let it slide, then to argue about everything. And I know I'm going to get slammed for this post.
sexy_bitch_class_101
04-09-2007, 11:18 PM
my friend has been a vegan for a year
she dosent eat any processed sugar
baiscally she lives off tofu vegetables and fruits
and ya shes totally dedicated
shes the only 1 in her family who does this