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weakestlink
09-28-2005, 11:13 AM
Why do most people dislike other people who are fat? I heard on the radio that in a survey of school-age children, that they would pick a kid that had a physical handicap, like one arm or in a wheelchair for a friend over someone that was fat. another item I heard further back was thet fat people are preceived, even if it isn't true, as being less intelligent and lacking self-control. Can't people look beyond the mere physical appearance? You might be missing a chance to make a very understanding and sympathetic acquaintence.
I think I read that people who are fat have low self-esteem. A few people I know don't have that - it's other people that put them down. Like I was with my girlfriend and coming out of the grocery store and some guy we didn't even know was coming in at the same time, he just had to say "Did you make sure you got your DEXATRIM?"
I though that was uncalled for not to mention rude to the max.
Any opinions on this subject?
loquaciousdipso
09-28-2005, 11:17 AM
Shut up, fatty.
Honestly? I don't care if people are fat or not. It just so happens that all the obese people I know are arseholes, completely by coincedence.
The_Contortionist
09-28-2005, 11:26 AM
Sometimes when I see a fat person especially if the are scoffing on cake or mcdonalds of something (like a really fat person i mean not just someone a bit tubby)
I dont like it because it disgusts me that they are being such monsterous greedy pigs who cant contain themselves.
I don't mean ones with medical problems that make them over weight, I mean the whales who just eat and eat and eat- like 10 burgers at a time and things like that. Its pure greed and it makes me sick. But thats not restricted to fat people though, its just more noticable with them.
I hate the site of a huge person eating junk, especially in summer when they are all sweaty and have their fat hanging out- its just not nice.
But Id never tease someone for it, i just couldnt be friends with someone like that, it would be too frustrating.
marilyn_monroe
09-28-2005, 07:17 PM
fat people arent really that attractive to most ppl so i guess no1 wants to be seen with ugly people. and trust me this thread is not gonna change that.
Sir_Guthix
09-28-2005, 07:48 PM
Ehh sometimes it isnt there fault that their overweight but sometimes it is self-control is a big factor here and well most people including not so large people lack this.
Letthereberock
09-28-2005, 07:49 PM
Yeah the lazy emo ones piss me off especially
x-nastassja
09-28-2005, 08:07 PM
personally. annorexic ppl are way grosser lookin then overweight ppl.
kate_
09-28-2005, 08:37 PM
BECAUSE ATTRACTIVE PEOPLE ARE FAVORED.
thats just how it is.
Kittyraven
09-28-2005, 08:50 PM
BECAUSE ATTRACTIVE PEOPLE ARE FAVORED.
thats just how it is.
Yeah but that doesn't mean that thats the way it has to stay either.
It's these so called "attractive" people that walk around talking shit about people that they dont understand, thinking that looks are gonna get them through life but mos tof them tend to find out the hard way that you can only go so far with looks. I think personality and brain power are way more immortant than how one looks.
Besides some people just tend to bloom late so dont hate on people because of their looks, and dont let the way they look stop you from getting to know a great person! :)
longhorn_fraz
09-28-2005, 10:51 PM
Why do most people dislike other people who are fat?
Generally speaking (with the exception of a few rare medical conditions) when a person is obese, it is their own fault. Exercise and a good diet can almost always prevent obesity. This means that one can make several fair assumptions about the person based on their obesity. Obesity generally implies apathy, short-sightedness, egocentricism, self-pity, and a disregard for social norms as well as physical health. Basically, it can frequently be inferred from a person's obesity that they have some significant personality flaws.
I heard on the radio that in a survey of school-age children, that they would pick a kid that had a physical handicap, like one arm or in a wheelchair for a friend over someone that was fat.
I am really quite impressed by that. A handicapped person generally can't do anything to improve their condition, whereas an obese person almost always can. This behavior is therefore completely rational.
I heard further back was thet fat people are preceived, even if it isn't true, as being less intelligent and lacking self-control.
They almost certainly lack self-control, but intelligence is more debatable. People can be both obese and intelligent, but intelligent people are more likely to understand the health risks associated with obesity.
Like I was with my girlfriend and coming out of the grocery store and some guy we didn't even know was coming in at the same time, he just had to say "Did you make sure you got your DEXATRIM?"
I though that was uncalled for not to mention rude to the max.
That was quite rude, and I would never condone such behavior. It is never productive to insult people, regardless of their flaws.
In summary, my opinion is that people should stop treating obesity like it's something that ought to be socially acceptable. Obesity is a bad habit, just like irresponsible drug use. People should work to help others overcome obesity, not push for society to approve of it.
itsTimeToBurn
09-28-2005, 10:52 PM
fat people arent really that attractive to most ppl so i guess no1 wants to be seen with ugly people. and trust me this thread is not gonna change that.
Actually, some insecure girls I know will only assosciate with other girls that are fatter and less attractive than they are so when they are out they will be the only one who gains the attention of the oppsite sex.
Heather
09-30-2005, 01:52 PM
well I read the topic and already knew what my answer to this. Someone else posted it too. It simply because people want to be considered attractive, and popular and cool, blah blah blah. If you are standing at a party with a larger person, nobody will talk to you. Nobody wants to be seen with the fat person, cause they aren't considered pretty, I guess. Its all shallow kids, really. In the real world, it doesnt matter so much. High school politics.
I was trying to be as honest as possible. Hope I didn't come off as rude... my aunt is very big, but I still hang out with her anyways. =)
AvariPuppet
09-30-2005, 04:30 PM
Because gluttony is highly unnattractive. It's really as simply as that.
Really, this depends on how fat you're talking about. There's a difference between having a few extra pounds and being obese.
darkfaerie
09-30-2005, 05:41 PM
i think obesity is distusting,not because of the way the fat person looks but because of WHY they are fat. almost(though i know not always) it is because they are either lazy, lack self-control, feel sorry for themsleves, don't take care of themselves, or all of these. it's just when i see a fat person (REALLY fat) i can't help but think they are lazy good-for-nothing couch pataoes. now i dont let this stop me from getting to know them, ofcourse, they could have a thyroid problem,but ussually thats not the case. i have a friend who is obsessed with two things, eating, and television. he is, ofcourse, obese. this disgusts me. you see, if he was only 70 pounds it would still disgust me, the mere fact that he is so lazy. and about the emo thing, i know sum1 who is a lazy-ass emo, not obese but quite overweight. all she ever does is complain about her problems to other ppl, and eat chocolate, and then complain shes fat. if she really cared she was fat she would eat better and get out there and exercise at least a little bit and stop complaining. and for my last point(srry this is long) i agree that we should stop trying to socially accept obesity,thats the lazy-ass's way out of getting into shape and living a healthy life.sorry if this has sounded rude, really im not, but i tend to have strong opinions about some things.
darkfaerie
09-30-2005, 05:42 PM
wow that realy was long sorry
GuitarGuy89
10-01-2005, 01:18 AM
They're obese because of the lifestyle they chose– most of the time. If they don't like the way others react to his/her choice, then it's not anyone's fault but their own.
Sweetie2010
10-01-2005, 04:14 PM
Sometimes when I see a fat person especially if the are scoffing on cake or mcdonalds of something (like a really fat person i mean not just someone a bit tubby)
I dont like it because it disgusts me that they are being such monsterous greedy pigs who cant contain themselves.
I don't mean ones with medical problems that make them over weight, I mean the whales who just eat and eat and eat- like 10 burgers at a time and things like that. Its pure greed and it makes me sick. But thats not restricted to fat people though, its just more noticable with them.
I hate the site of a huge person eating junk, especially in summer when they are all sweaty and have their fat hanging out- its just not nice.
But Id never tease someone for it, i just couldnt be friends with someone like that, it would be too frustrating.
well why is it skinnier ppl can eat junck food, but larger(say it in a nicer way it might hurt ppls feelings) ppl cant eat it. I mean I have some really good friends taht are overweight, but they r active n dont eat to much junkfood. I mean sum ppl jus cant lose the weight. like they may have a slow matabolism or sumthin. I mean it took me awhile to lose weight bcuz i have a slow matabolism. i mean i play sports, but my doc. said my matabolism was slow. it still is, but ive been doin things 2 increase it so i can keep my weight off, n stay healthy. like u can drink green tea, n water n all that crap 4 it 2 speed up
longhorn_fraz
10-01-2005, 04:24 PM
well why is it skinnier ppl can eat junck food, but larger(say it in a nicer way it might hurt ppls feelings) ppl cant eat it. I mean I have some really good friends taht are overweight, but they r active n dont eat to much junkfood. I mean sum ppl jus cant lose the weight. like they may have a slow matabolism or sumthin. I mean it took me awhile to lose weight bcuz i have a slow matabolism. i mean i play sports, but my doc. said my matabolism was slow. it still is, but ive been doin things 2 increase it so i can keep my weight off, n stay healthy. like u can drink green tea, n water n all that crap 4 it 2 speed up
Metabolism does play a roll in a person's weight, however it is almost never an excuse for obesity. For one thing, low metabolism is itself a sign of inactivity, and therefore people are partially responsible for their own metabolism. More importantly, even extremely low metabolisms don't actually stop people from being healthy. They might not be skinny, but they can at least avoid obesity. Eating healthy and exercising works, regardless of your metabolism. There are a few medical conditions (generally associated with the thyroid) that are exceptions to this, but these are very rare. As for why skinnier people can eat junk food; it's because they are apparently able to control themselves overall, and so a few indulgences are permissible. An obese person should not be eating junk food, because they should realize how important it is to lose weight.
Sweetie2010
10-01-2005, 06:26 PM
i know matabolism isnt that ig, but i was nv overweight, i could jus lose sum weight which i did. it does make it more diffucult tho, n sum ppl jus cant do it by playing sports. i mean i play basketball, swim, i go on a jog everyday, n play other sports. i had 2 work more hard tho 2 lose like 10 pounds n keep it off cuz of my matabolism. 4 sum ppl they jus give up cuz it is sorta hard 2 keep off the weeight