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Touched
05-02-2005, 09:35 PM
I'm so glad they a religion form now

ok this is for all the christians

I was always brought up to believe that everyone goes to heaven.Because why would god send someone he loves to hell forever.And when he died on the cross he died for everones sins.I mean yes I do believe they go to hell for awhile to pay for what they did but when they say they believe in god and truely mean it they will come up to heaven.

I have some verses

John1:29 The next day he [John the baptist] saw Jesus coming to him,and said,"Behold, the lamb of God who takes away the sin ofthe world

{ED,."The sin" is the singular indicating the complete removal of the "sin principle" or sin itself with all of its consequences,not just the individual acts of sin}

John3:17 for god did not send the Son into the world to judge the world;but thatthe world should be saved through him

John 12:32And I,if I be lifted up from the earth,will draw all men to myself

1 cor 15:22,28 For as Adam all die, so also in christ all shall be made alive.But each in its own order[ED,. This phrase is the key to understanding God's purpose in relation to his time schedule}"And when all things are subjected to Him,then the son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all in all"
{ED,. Paul sees clearly to the end,and makes this ultimate and most concise declaration of the eternal purpose of god!}

I have so many more but those are my favorite If you would like more Email me and I can send you all of them.

Also I would like to know all of your thoughts on this and your reaction.

Thanks

WhiteMag3
05-03-2005, 12:24 PM
did you ever consider that heaven might not be real?

markus50
05-03-2005, 03:12 PM
heaven doesnt have to be a physical place, it can be a state of mind as well. And you dont go to hell for a while to pay for your sins, you go to purgatory.

Funny_Bunny
05-03-2005, 03:26 PM
HEAVEN MUST EXIST I DON'T KNOW ALOT OF THINGS LIKE HOW EARTH WAS CREATED ONLY THE BIG GUY UPSTARIRS DOES! BUT WHY LIVE THROUGH ALL THIS CRAP LIFE IF YOU'VE GOT NOTHING 2 LOOK FORWARD 2 WHEN YOU DIE!!!!

markus50
05-03-2005, 03:41 PM
HEAVEN MUST EXIST I DON'T KNOW ALOT OF THINGS LIKE HOW EARTH WAS CREATED ONLY THE BIG GUY UPSTARIRS DOES! BUT WHY LIVE THROUGH ALL THIS CRAP LIFE IF YOU'VE GOT NOTHING 2 LOOK FORWARD 2 WHEN YOU DIE!!!!

God doesnt take responsibility for whether you've had a bad life or not, he died to pay for our sins and lets us live our lives as we want to to make our own decisions etc. Like i said, just because God says you'll go to heaven, doesnt mean its some physical place that everyone goes to when they die, heaven could be a thought or a dream, or some kind of pleausure, maybe thats Gods way of rewarding some things we do as human beings.

Touched
05-03-2005, 07:39 PM
Markus has a point..But none of us really know ..

WhiteMag3
05-03-2005, 07:46 PM
HEAVEN MUST EXIST I DON'T KNOW ALOT OF THINGS LIKE HOW EARTH WAS CREATED ONLY THE BIG GUY UPSTARIRS DOES! BUT WHY LIVE THROUGH ALL THIS CRAP LIFE IF YOU'VE GOT NOTHING 2 LOOK FORWARD 2 WHEN YOU DIE!!!!
that makes about as much sence as "santa clause must exist because I don't know enough about him" if you don't know enough don't form opinions about things.