Which car is better, the Dodge Viper or the Chevrolet Corvette? And why?

I'd say the viper but that's based completly on looks

they both suck imo... they're both very overrated...

viper if i had to choose........... but id prefer not to lol.

well, the viper has slightly better looks but the corvette is almost equally as fast as the viper and costs about $25,000 less. Or you could get the zo6 or the zo7 that is comong out and beat the viper, but it would only be a difference of about $5000 less than the viper. so it would depend on the person. Do you want good looks but a heavy price? go with the viper. But if you want a pretty reasonable looking sports car that is more affordable, go with the corvette. Either way is very rewarding.

I thought keith was back :(

all though the zo6 is bad ass the hennesy viper doubles its horse power

Wow, every post so far is RETARDED.

Whos faster depends on MANY variables, like driver, year etc....

The HENNESY VIPER IS NOT SOLD BY DEALERS, therefore you cannot compare to the Z06. But whats funny is the LINGENFELTER Corvette is MUCH faster than the Hennesy Viper. Not to mention its funny how Viper has a V10 to get power, the Corvette has only a V8. Power to cylinder ratio obviously in favor of the Corvette.

Viper 2007 MSRP 83K
Corvette Z06 MSRP 69K

So wheres that 25K dollar difference you were speaking of? Exactly, way to RESEARCH

Plus there will not be a Z07, its only a rumor. The STOCK Corvette next year is being bumped up to the Z06 standards and the Z06 is going to be bumped up EVEN MORE. Theres a reason why Corvette sells better, you be the judge.

P.s. don't listen to dumbasses

Wow, every post so far is RETARDED.

Whos faster depends on MANY variables, like driver, year etc....

The HENNESY VIPER IS NOT SOLD BY DEALERS, therefore you cannot compare to the Z06. But whats funny is the LINGENFELTER Corvette is MUCH faster than the Hennesy Viper. Not to mention its funny how Viper has a V10 to get power, the Corvette has only a V8. Power to cylinder ratio obviously in favor of the Corvette.

Viper 2007 MSRP 83K
Corvette Z06 MSRP 69K

So wheres that 25K dollar difference you were speaking of? Exactly, way to RESEARCH

Plus there will not be a Z07, its only a rumor. The STOCK Corvette next year is being bumped up to the Z06 standards and the Z06 is going to be bumped up EVEN MORE. Theres a reason why Corvette sells better, you be the judge.

P.s. don't listen to dumbasses

dude u needa calm down its not like ur ever gonna afford one so why u kno so much

Not to mention that the 'Vette is uber-light.

Power to weight also matters :cool:.

The vette is to light.

GM cut way to much weight from its chassis in order for it to keep up and barely beat the viper in 0-60 and 1/4 mile times.

Therefore the handling has gone way down and the viper finally out handled the vette and its so called perfect 50/50 weight ratio is no more.

As for what car is better, this is apples to oranges basically. Viper 505 hp Vette 500hp. The vette costs less and is a tad bit faster if you know how to drive one. But if you dont then the vipers torque will just walk all over you.

For me i choose viper becuase i have driven my dads and its a blast lol.

dude u needa calm down its not like ur ever gonna afford one so why u kno so much

oh? Because you know me right?

And GM didn't literally cut the weight out of the car. They went to all aluminum frame which is so light you can pick it up with your pinky finger. (done it before at the corvette musem)

And the car still beats the Viper in EVERY Aspect of performance and ratings.

The only exception is this year when Dodge upped the HP but the Corvette in the long run will still destroy the car.

Remember, a true test of a car is more than 0-60 and drag times.

Not to mention that the 'Vette is uber-light.

Power to weight also matters :cool:.

heyy dan you're back!

You'll get to the first corner of a track and the corvette will win by still being on the track and not three spins and a tree away.

Wow, every post so far is RETARDED.



You should watch what you're calling "retarded" when posting in a thread that is nearly 4 years old.

You should watch what you're calling "retarded" when posting in a thread that is nearly 4 years old.

yea yea yea, I didn't look at the date until afterwards. But the fact still stands. haha

I think looking more nicely bodywork Viper better than Corvette, but they have average similar speed. Corvette and Viper is American supercars.

Jeg tror å seing mere hyggelig bodywork Viper bedre enn Corvette, men de har gjennomsnittlige liknende fart. Corvette og Viper er Amerikansk supercars.

lol, why did you post that in a different language?

the Z07 is going to be a real car though it will be under the SS moniker, it'll be supercharged and put out about 650 bhp, 150 more then a viper for only a couple grand more.....the vette is the best car of all time, if you dont think so post what you think it is

the Z07 is going to be a real car though it will be under the SS moniker, it'll be supercharged and put out about 650 bhp, 150 more then a viper for only a couple grand more.....the vette is the best car of all time, if you dont think so post what you think it is

Best car of all time? Aston Martin DB9, Saleen S7, Bugatti Veyron, I'd take any of those over a Corvette.

Best car of all time? Aston Martin DB9, Saleen S7, Bugatti Veyron, I'd take any of those over a Corvette.

Big diffrence, all of those cars cost over $200,000 dollars. The Corvette can be had for less than $50,000. Comparing them is apples to assholes and anyone who bothers is a complete and utter boob.

He said the best car of all time. It's not. best car for the money? Maybe. Best car of all time? Absolutely not.

the vette is the best car of all time, because everything has to be weighed in when deciding which is the best car, not just its 0-60 time or whatever, and yes it can be compared with those other cars, save the Veyron which is a ridiculous comparsion, probably even compared to the Enzo which was "only" $625,000 from the factory, over 40% less then the Veyron. The Vette suspension, is now or soon will be used by Ferrari, the electromagnetic shock setup. The biggest thing with the Corvette is Chevy doesn't take the easy road and make it mid-engined, if they were to they could easily pump up the power by using a 10 or 12 cylinder (or even 16 like you mentioned with the Veyron). I'm just wondering from you then why isnt the Corvette the best car ever? where does the cars you mentioned in your post so exceed it?

You can tell which one I prefer. The reason why I like corvettes is cause I think they are kool and my family is into corvettes.

If we must consider everything should we also consider that while it's amazing on the track most owners agree it's crap on the road (which, being a street-car, that matters a lot)? Shitty radio, horrible over bumpy pavement, etc.? Or does that part of everything not matter?

The Vette suspension, is now or soon will be used by Ferrari, the electromagnetic shock setup.

The Corvette active suspension is NOT an electromagnetic shock. What it is, is a damper filled with ferro-fluid that is acted upon by an electro magnet on top of the damper. Where as in electromagnetic suspension, the electromagents themselves act as the damper. Suspension like this is not bespoke of the Corvtte as it has been used by all manufaturers, including Forula One chassis makers since the mid 80's.

Shelby GT500 is way better then both.

Shelby GT500 is way better then both.

why is it whenever someone compares 2 stock cars people always take the version of the car that has been tuned by a big name (shelby in this case) and say its the shit. I never did understand why its so hard to keep a comparison STOCK.

sorry i mentioned the suspension setup wrong, i couldnt think of the correct term for it, thanks for making clear for everyone else though, ......also, for the post "its horrible over rough pavement...." what the hell do you think an S7 is like? all those cars, save maybe the Aston Martin, or the Veyron are great over pavement? the Vette along with the 911 are both respected for their streetabliy as well as track performance

Even if it was perfect on the road (it's not) it wouldn't make it the best car ever made.

Shelby GT500 is way better then both.

Actully, when road and track tested the new GT500 against the base Corvette, the Corvette easily came out on top since even thier trained test drivers were upable to reproduce the factory numbers for accelleration and skid-pad numbers.

this is getting ridiculuous, people are on here "its not the best car ever, look at the Veyron, etc" the veyron like other super cars are so astronomically expensive to maintain it gets to the point where the cost to buy isnt really the big thing vs. maintinence cost where the Vette has (in comparison) bulletproof reliablity and it can (comfortable) taken cross country and return 29 mpg.....do that in a S7

All this is great, and it is a great car, but you wont ever get me to agree that the Corvette Z06 is the absolute best car ever made in the history of cars.

fair enough, i'll agree with you that you'll never be persuaded, as long as you know your stuff very well, then i can respect your opinion

Honestly I don't think there can be a best car. There's too many uses for them. Maybe the Z06 is the best car in it's price-range, I'd have to research more to be sure, but there can't be an absolute best car.

viper = muscle car
vette = sports car

see the differance ?

"why is it whenever someone compares 2 stock cars people always take the version of the car that has been tuned by a big name (shelby in this case) and say its the shit. I never did understand why its so hard to keep a comparison STOCK."

The GT500 is a stock high performance model, just like the Cobra, Z06, etc. It wasn't tuned by a big name, It comes from SVT group at FoMoCo.

...no, the GT500 is a tuned up Mustang GT. It's anything but stock.

1988 Chevy Corvette Callaway top speed 254mph and 880hp but cost 400k. Its only the fastest street legal car in the U.S. Here it is take a look.

http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z2964/Chevrolet_Corvette%20Sledgehammer/default.aspx

1988 Chevy Corvette Callaway top speed 254mph

Theoretical top speed. That's never been proven since before the Veyron came out, the McLaren F1 was the fastest car at two-hundred and fourty-somethintg MPH.

You wana se a Mclaren F1

http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z653/McLaren_F1%20GT/default.aspx

There you go 240.1MPH ha

Callaway was driven on oct-19-1989 by John Lingenfelter it says so on the site that i posted before. Its right under the pictures of the car.

actually the fastest car is a 1987 oldsmobile.

http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z699/default.aspx

257mph top speed wow

"...no, the GT500 is a tuned up Mustang GT. It's anything but stock."

So the Z06 is a higher performance version of the regular Corvette, are you saying that the Z06 is not stock then? It's a real production car just like SRT Viper and Z06.

"...no, the GT500 is a tuned up Mustang GT. It's anything but stock."

So the Z06 is a higher performance version of the regular Corvette, are you saying that the Z06 is not stock then? It's a real production car just like SRT Viper and Z06.

There is the keen diffrence. The Z06 does not share many engineering similarities with the standard Corvette (such as the engine, brakes, aero package, etc..). The GT500 is for the most part just a Mustang GT with a big-ass engine. Quite frankly, the Z06 is a much better car than the Mustang. There are some who might argue that the Mustang can seat more people, however those people have need tried to sit in the back of a Mustang.

There is alot of different drive train, suspension, and body parts on the GT500, it's not just a bigger engine and a supercharger. The rear axle is beefed up and it has totaly different spring packs.

"...no, the GT500 is a tuned up Mustang GT. It's anything but stock."

So the Z06 is a higher performance version of the regular Corvette, are you saying that the Z06 is not stock then? It's a real production car just like SRT Viper and Z06.

They didn't just take a C6 and mod it up to make it a Z06. That's how they made the GT500 however.

No, actualy they spent alot of time on the road and track tuning it for performance.

No, actualy they spent alot of time on the road and track tuning it for performance.

But still, it's a tuned and modded 5th Gen Mustang GT. The Z06 is not just a tuned and modded C6, it's its own car.

But still, it's a tuned and modded 5th Gen Mustang GT. The Z06 is not just a tuned and modded C6, it's its own car.

Not really. Mudrunner is on the right track, but he is over-estimating the engineering time that Ford spent on the GT500. However even if the Z06 were just a "modded Corvette" I'd still have one over the GT500 any day.

Not really. Mudrunner is on the right track, but he is over-estimating the engineering time that Ford spent on the GT500. However even if the Z06 were just a "modded Corvette" I'd still have one over the GT500 any day.

I'm not denying the similarities, and obviously it's in the corvette line, but the Z06 is more separate from the C6 than the GT500 from the GT.

It's still not just a modded up Mustang.

It's still not just a modded up Mustang.

Yeah, okay it isn't. But that doesn't make it better than the Z06, or even a contender. The GT500 can't even top a vanilla Corvette coupe.

It's still not just a modded up Mustang.

ok dumbass, if your going to keep your story of the GT500 then I'll throw out the Lingenfelter Corvette. Happy? Your car is beat either way. And don't say you can't get it at a dealer because they can special order it.

1967 Corvette Mmm

1967 Corvette Mmm

:selfvomit

Z06 by far, Vipers don't handle well at all. Vette has better suspentsion and can handle the twistys much better than the viper. Straight line performance there about equal, though the viper has more engine potential (No replacement for Displacement). Viper sounds like ass though.

On a note urelated to performance, the Z06 holds the coveted ability to look good in yellow. Something I can't say for the Viper.

Z06 by far, Vipers don't handle well at all. Vette has better suspentsion and can handle the twistys much better than the viper. Straight line performance there about equal, though the viper has more engine potential (No replacement for Displacement). Viper sounds like ass though.

Funny you should talk about the viper having more poential. The Viper's 8.3L V10 stuggles to make more power than the Z06's engine which displaces a liter less. There is a replacent for displacement: it's call technology. The Viper's engine is a trumped-up truck engine and more useful as a boat anchor than as a means of conveyence.

Funny you should talk about the viper having more poential. The Viper's 8.3L V10 stuggles to make more power than the Z06's engine which displaces a liter less. There is a replacent for displacement: it's call technology. The Viper's engine is a trumped-up truck engine and more useful as a boat anchor than as a means of conveyence.

Yes the Ls7 is a better engine design in the long run and just a tune can get you higher than that lovely 505 bhp mark. However as an engine it still cannot ever reach the same hp as the SRT-10 engine. The reason for this is because the SRT can be used in FI, the LS7 cannot handle nearly as much. The cylinder walls are to thin on the LS7 for FI.

I agree with you JV the Z06 is a better engine but, it just can't get up to the marks the srt is capable of. Although Dinosaur technology it was just built more rugged I guess...

Although LS7 kinda is dinosaur tech to it still uses pushrods, doesnt change the fact that its amazing though...

The reason for this is because the SRT can be used in FI, the LS7 cannot handle nearly as much. The cylinder walls are to thin on the LS7 for FI.


Weren't you just arguing about there being "no replacement for displacement"? Now you're talking about power-adders like forced induction.

I'm not so certain about your assumptions on on the LS7. The C6R team seems to be doing fairly well with it pushing 650+bhp with natural aspiration.

Weren't you just arguing about there being "no replacement for displacement"? Now you're talking about power-adders like forced induction.

I'm not so certain about your assumptions on on the LS7. The C6R team seems to be doing fairly well with it pushing 650+bhp with natural aspiration.

Ha I had a feeling you'd mention when I said that... The only reason I said that is because I meant it's easier to achieve higher hp with 8.3 liter than it is with a 7 that's all.

Like I said before I agree the LS7 is a better engine design, but end game the srt can just handle more.

Like I said before I agree the LS7 is a better engine design, but end game the srt can just handle more.

I would like to know your theory behind this assumption. Cylinder walls do not tell the whole story when it comes to how much power an engine can make.

I would like to know your theory behind this assumption. Cylinder walls do not tell the whole story when it comes to how much power an engine can make.

Well how many LS7's do you know break the 1000hp as opposed to built SRT's. As far as I know Lingenfelter is the only company that's gotten close and there mark is 800.

Yes your absolutely right cylinder walls do not tell the whole story, however in the case of the LS7 the cylinder walls being as fragile as they are makes adding boost a delicate process and it is limited.

If your talking N/A than yes the corvette is superior but again I did say maximum potential not just N/A...

However the Lingenfelter's 800 HP can be taken around a turn, let's see you do that in the 1000 HP Viper.

However the Lingenfelter's 800 HP can be taken around a turn, let's see you do that in the 1000 HP Viper.

lol agreed... Vipers cannot handle

lol agreed... Vipers cannot handle

So then why's it matter? Who cares how much horsepower you have if it's worthless? I'd rather have 800 usable horses than 1000 worthless ones.

define usable?

you're basically saying that it's stupid that funny cars have 6000 hp..

define usable?

you're basically saying that it's stupid that funny cars have 6000 hp..

They're designed for drag-racing though. They aren't designed to be used as road-legal cars, their purpose is to go fast in a straight line. The Lingenfelter Corvette and the Hennessy Viper Venom are designed to be road-going street-legal cars that you could purchase and drive to work. A 6000 hp car that can only go in a straight line and is designed for drag racing makes sense, 1000 hp that can only go in a straight line and is designed for street driving does not.

So then why's it matter? Who cares how much horsepower you have if it's worthless? I'd rather have 800 usable horses than 1000 worthless ones.


Well just because it can't take turns well doesn't mean that it can't be used on the road. It just means your a burden to all mankind!

lol any way I was just saying that the srt can handle more I never said the car can handle great.

Although aftermarket suspension does wonders for the whole not turning thing :P

Well.. considering you're on the road.. I'm sure it can take a corner at legal speeds...

Well.. considering you're on the road.. I'm sure it can take a corner at legal speeds...

Well whoop-de-do. I've got a 1000 HP ridiculously expensive car that could be beaten by a Civic Si around a curvy track.

well...ever think when someone puts that much into a car they aren't really thinking about going around a road course anymore?


Hell I'd love my car to have 1000hp and drive on the street... That would be fucking awesome..

Besides you said street driving anything can drive on the streets... I've seen pro mods driven on the streets...

well...ever think when someone puts that much into a car they aren't really thinking about going around a road course anymore?


Hell I'd love my car to have 1000hp and drive on the street... That would be fucking awesome..

Besides you said street driving anything can drive on the streets... I've seen pro mods driven on the streets...

I think that should be the case, if you're going to design it in such a way that you can't use it outside a straight line. And I'm not saying it wouldn't be awesome to have, or that it's not impressive, I'm just saying...let's put it this way. You could have a 10" **** but you can't really do much with it to please a lady, or you could have an 8" **** that's maneuverable and able to drive the ladies nuts. Get what I'm saying? 1000 HP is nice, but I'd rather have 200 less and really be able to use it.

I think that should be the case, if you're going to design it in such a way that you can't use it outside a straight line. And I'm not saying it wouldn't be awesome to have, or that it's not impressive, I'm just saying...let's put it this way. You could have a 10" **** but you can't really do much with it to please a lady, or you could have an 8" **** that's maneuverable and able to drive the ladies nuts. Get what I'm saying? 1000 HP is nice, but I'd rather have 200 less and really be able to use it.


To be honest I think anything over 600 is pretty excessive : /

To be honest I think anything over 600 is pretty excessive : /

There's no such thing as too much torque or too much power, just not enough grip.

the corvette is too small for me

the corvette is too small for me

Sorry to hear it, fatty :(

Ha I had a feeling you'd mention when I said that... The only reason I said that is because I meant it's easier to achieve higher hp with 8.3 liter than it is with a 7 that's all.

Like I said before I agree the LS7 is a better engine design, but end game the srt can just handle more.
Actully, since the LS7 has a better flowing head design I am willing to bet it could take more boost than the Viper.

both gay, get a honda

both gay, get a honda

Are you joking, or retarded?

na g ur retarded ne honda wud beat ur gay ass

na g ur retarded ne honda wud beat ur gay ass

My 3.8 L 200 HP Mustang V6 eats rice burners for breakfast.

wel u shd lern how 2 cook ur rice insted of burning it den makng ur car eat it

o n ur gay

To fabulous comebacks. I bet you I could beat you in a riced civic. Chances are you'd be like "OMG lol I wuld have beaten u but my shift lite didnt go off lol, ur a ***."

i dnt hav a civc u dumass

nd wtf i dnt hav rice on it eitha

I know, you have an accord. I bet you by skill alone I could beat you in a riced civic.

i dnt evn kno wut a riced civic is oi

i dnt evn kno wut a riced civic is oi

It's like what you did to your piece of shit accord, only a civic.

wel of crs ur car wud b fasta thn a car wit no enjin



or wud it??

wel of crs ur car wud b fasta thn a car wit no enjin



or wud it??

Lol, my car would be faster than yours even if it was brand new and stock.

wow monkey nuts, you have the worst spelling of anyone I have ever seen on this forum.

My 3.8 L 200 HP Mustang V6 eats rice burners for breakfast.

3.8L only made 175hp.

The older Essex V6 made 175. The upgraded Vulcan V6 made 200. I have the 3.8 L Vulcan V6

Lol, my car would be faster than yours even if it was brand new and stock.

yea wel hw much u pay 4 urs? n caravan ur gay

The older Essex V6 made 175. The upgraded Vulcan V6 made 200. I have the 3.8 L Vulcan V6

Vulcan was a 3.0L first offered in the Taurus.

I realized that afterwards. I got mixed up. I have the Essex, the Vulcan was the 175 hp one. I had the HP right just the wrong engine. The Essex was the upgrade to the Vulcan basically.

yea wel hw much u pay 4 urs? n caravan ur gay

$1,000.

lol k wel yea i dnt race my car, nor do i think its a race car :) it jst ther 2 get me frm 1 place 2 anotha, i dnt needa worry bout nething :)

I realized that afterwards. I got mixed up. I have the Essex, the Vulcan was the 175 hp one. I had the HP right just the wrong engine. The Essex was the upgrade to the Vulcan basically.

The most the Vulcan ever made was 155hp, and that is only when it was updated for 2001. It was mostly used in FWD cars, but now is only equipped in Rangers.

The Essex 3.8L V6 is a peice of shit engine. The most it ever made (natrally aspirated) was 190hp in the 1999 Mustang, all others were 140.

From what I've read it made 200 in the 98 windstar.

From what I've read it made 200 in the 98 windstar.


]The 3.8 L (3797 cc/232 in³) model was introduced for the 1982 model year, first appearing as an option on the Ford Granada.

Bore was 96.8 mm and stroke was 86 mm. Output was 112 hp (83 kW) at 4200 rpm and 175 lbf·ft (237 N·m) of torque at 2800 rpm. It initially had a 2-barrel Motorcraft 2150 carburetor. Central Fuel Injection was made available in 1984. Output was 120 hp at 3600 rpm and 205 lb-ft of torque at 1600 rpm in these models.

Multipoint Fuel Injection became standard in 1988. These engines put out 140 hp (104 kW) and 215 lbf·ft (292 N·m) of torque.

A supercharged version was used in the 1989-95 Thunderbird Super Coupe and 1989-90 Cougar XR-7, producing up to 230 hp (171 kW) and 330 lbf·ft (447 N·m).

The Police Package Taurus, Lincoln Continental and Ford Windstar had a high-output version with better cylinder heads and other modifications. It produced 160 - 200 hp (119 - 149 kW) and 220 - 230 lbf·ft (298 - 312 N·m) of torque.

The Mustang version was updated for 1999 with Teflon-coated pistons, a variable length intake manifold, and a more open cylinder head. These bumped output up by 40 hp (30 kW) to 190 hp (142 kW).

Wikipedia (Essex (Canadian) 90* V6) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Essex_V6_engine_%28Canadian%29)

Only a base model was available for the first year, but a more luxurious model followed for 1996. This year, the 3.0 L 150 hp (112 kW) Vulcan V6 was made the base engine, with the 3.8 L engine upgraded to 200 hp (149 kW).

The AMERICAN Windstar (the one I drive) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Windstar

Viper 2007 MSRP 83K
Corvette Z06 MSRP 69K

the corvette cost less and is faster than the Viper

Viper 2007 MSRP 83K
Corvette Z06 MSRP 69K

the corvette cost less and is faster than the Viper

It really should be as simple as that basic truth, why has this gone on for six pages?