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Crazy V
03-11-2004, 09:18 AM
Different,
Yep that's me,
Freakishly bent,
To be who I am meant to be!
Fear,
Yep that's what you feel,
Afraid of how I appear,
To you I don't appear!
Cruelty,
Yep that's what I get,
You hate who I try to be,
That's your mind-set.
Freak,
Yep I know that name,
Just because I'm unique,
Everyone always the same.
Yah to tell you the truth,
I am different.
I'm gonna live my youth,
The way I see fit.
I'm gonna go against the grain,
I'm gonna always rub you wrong,
You'll always cause me pain,
Forever on with this sad song.
Different, yep that's me,
Fear, yep that's what you feel,
Cruelty, yep you hate who I try to be,
Freak, yep you can't stand me to be so real!
Different,
Yep, that's me!

Violet Sellers

I wrote this about the peeps in the town where I live. They can't accept anyone to be different.

curlee
03-11-2004, 09:34 AM
i love it .. the words r meaningful n strong good work girl ...

Crazy V
03-11-2004, 09:36 AM
Thank you so much! I thought noone would like it!

frappuccino17
03-11-2004, 07:31 PM
i agree, it's great, and it's different too :nodding:

XxLauraxX
03-15-2004, 01:43 PM
i think it is gr8

A_Fire_Inside
03-15-2004, 09:30 PM
I liked it. it flowed well

Crazy V
03-16-2004, 09:36 AM
Thank you! Thank you all so very much!!!!

UnicornDream
03-17-2004, 12:06 AM
This poem didn't do anything for me...probably out of sheer personal experience, and preference perhaps.

I am just too used to kids thinking they're so damned different, unique, artsy, cool... when they are nothing more than Hot Topic (or similar outlet) drones. Maybe you do not fit this category, I do not know, because I don't know you.

That is what it brought to me, however. It immediately put my mind onto these total posers, these little teenage divas who have never done a unique or rebellious thing in their life. They dye their hair blue, get some funny looks from old people, and think they are being persecuted for their individuality.

I don't know... I felt like I was reading the angsty diary of one such teenager. Nothing about it felt lasting or emotional to me.

imported_Poisoned Eternity
03-17-2004, 12:47 AM
I agree with alice..it didn't really do much for me.

But I must once again point out that not everyone who shops at hot topic is a drone some of us have been shopping there since before it became amazingly hot and 'in.'

P.S. It also kind of sounded like a cheer..."I got spirit, yes I do, I got spirit how bout you?"

Just my opinion. Please do not be too awfully offended by it.

UnicornDream
03-17-2004, 01:52 AM
No, I wasn't saying all people who shop Hot Topic are drones...I shopped there occasionally, at another mall, before the location near my town opened. At which point, half of my school became gothic tortured anguished artists of some sort. Yeah, right.

I use "Hot Topic drones" as a blanket term, for that persuasion of people...'tis easier than explaining the technicalities every time.

imported_Poisoned Eternity
03-17-2004, 01:59 AM
Now I see your point.

Sorry for the misunderstanding , Alice.

snails182
03-17-2004, 03:26 AM
Man I hate the term poser, it's so loosely used. I feel it's a term for those who are very insecure with themselves and when people start dressing the way they do or start doing the same things they do they lose that feeling of self-importance or uniqueness about themselves and have the need to do something to keep their ego of individuality up. As for the poem, I am who I am and if they can't accept me that's not my problem, I don't need their acceptance or rejection and really don't care. Although it does hit me in one spot, I AM everything my dad doesn't want me to be. I shop at Hot Topic as well as The Buckle, I skate, I play sports, I play video games, and I'm a huge christian. My dad wants me to be some popular jock and get drunk on the weekends and he sees me as some loser for not doing that. Nuff bout me though, I liked the poem for the most part. I think you overused yep. I understand it for tone and repitition, but you can overdo it. It was pretty simple too, but simplicity is not always bad.

Crazy V
03-17-2004, 10:26 AM
I do not believe in dying my hair, God gave me the hair he gave me, he likes it, why would I want to change it. I don't believe in wearing makeup, God gave me the face he gave me, why would I want to change it. You and I think it's ugly but he thinks it's the most beautiful thing in the world. I don't shop at Hot Topic, been in there a few times liked some of the stuff didn't buy any (didn't have any money) I don't care what anyone thinks about me and I think it's helarious when peeps say something about me. I like to scare peeps. I am me. I love to write, I make good grades, I'm a frigin band Freak (Flute) I run track, I am a Big Christian. I don't believe in Religion. I believe in Worshiping God and Reading and doing what the bible says. I'm called Satan, Lucifurs Daughter, Whitch, B***h, Ho, Sl*t, H0re, ect. ect. I don't care. I don't act like any of them, exept for mabe B***h. But that's just me. I actept you for who you are and what you think. I have a really short temper and very homesidal thoughts when I get mad. I can't spell worth a flip . . . ^^See, I probably spelled that wrong. I was quite a child protagy. My dad wants me to be something I'm not, my mom sees someone who is not there. I'm very indepentant and I'm not afraid to tell anyone off. I'm not afraid to get peeps who tick me off put in jail and I'm not afraid to tell you what I think. I'm afraid of mirrors because I just so happen to be afraid of myself. I used to have voices in my head and every now and then I laps into split personalities that haven't been around in years. I'm very helthy, hardly ever sick. I don't beleive in drinking, smokeing, doing drugs, sex before marrage or any of that mess. I don't cus, haven't for about . . . a year and a half. I am me. Maybe I'm not very unique to you but to everyone one I know and to myself, I am me and there is noone else like me. Thank you for your comments I hope you know me just a little better now.

P.S I have an attitude Problem that's why it seems more like a cheer. I hate cheer leaders, some are good but most, blah!

UnicornDream
03-17-2004, 06:24 PM
First off, no problem, Jessica...I didn't make myself too clear, anyhow.

And to Crazy_V

...A big Christian, who doesn't believe in religion? Hmm. Let's break that down now. A Christian is someone who follows Christianity. Christianity is a religion. Righteo, so that ridiculous contradiction is settled now.

A child prodigy...who cannot even spell the word "prodigy." Mm hmm. Indeed, makes sense to me. *Cough*

Your entire post just screams "I am in that phase of life that EVERY human being looks back on and laughs hysterically at." Everyone goes through it, pretty much, thinking of themselves on such a pedestal, as such a specimen... then you wake up and realize things don't work that way.

It is all fine and dandy to realize you're unique, everyone is in some regard... but to revel in it, as though nobody has ever tread the depths of your individuality before... THAT is immature.

NoAnswer
03-17-2004, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Crazy V
I do not believe in dying my hair, God gave me the hair he gave me, he likes it, why would I want to change it. I don't believe in wearing makeup, God gave me the face he gave me, why would I want to change it. You and I think it's ugly but he thinks it's the most beautiful thing in the world. I don't shop at Hot Topic, been in there a few times liked some of the stuff didn't buy any (didn't have any money) I don't care what anyone thinks about me and I think it's helarious when peeps say something about me. I like to scare peeps. I am me. I love to write, I make good grades, I'm a frigin band Freak (Flute) I run track, I am a Big Christian. I don't believe in Religion. I believe in Worshiping God and Reading and doing what the bible says. I'm called Satan, Lucifurs Daughter, Whitch, B***h, Ho, Sl*t, H0re, ect. ect. I don't care. I don't act like any of them, exept for mabe B***h. But that's just me. I actept you for who you are and what you think. I have a really short temper and very homesidal thoughts when I get mad. I can't spell worth a flip . . . ^^See, I probably spelled that wrong. I was quite a child protagy. My dad wants me to be something I'm not, my mom sees someone who is not there. I'm very indepentant and I'm not afraid to tell anyone off. I'm not afraid to get peeps who tick me off put in jail and I'm not afraid to tell you what I think. I'm afraid of mirrors because I just so happen to be afraid of myself. I used to have voices in my head and every now and then I laps into split personalities that haven't been around in years. I'm very helthy, hardly ever sick. I don't beleive in drinking, smokeing, doing drugs, sex before marrage or any of that mess. I don't cus, haven't for about . . . a year and a half. I am me. Maybe I'm not very unique to you but to everyone one I know and to myself, I am me and there is noone else like me. Thank you for your comments I hope you know me just a little better now.

P.S I have an attitude Problem that's why it seems more like a cheer. I hate cheer leaders, some are good but most, blah!

I don't know about the poem... but THIS (look up ^) was completely unnecessary, and... pretty lame at that.

21CenturyJester
03-17-2004, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by UnicornDream

A child prodigy...who cannot even spell the word "prodigy." Mm hmm.

I read it as 'protegé', but then I realised that it was nonsensical.

Dee6389
03-17-2004, 10:11 PM
loved it! awsome awsome work!

Crazy V
03-18-2004, 10:37 AM
I used to be a protagy and I do not consider Christianity a religion. I'm not trying to be lame and I do know there are peeps out there like me. I don't even really like myself so I'm not being self-centered. Yall took what I wrote and put a different meaning to it. This poem was written with an attitude problem embedded in it. I was just telling peeps who want to change me and who are friggen scared of me yes I know and I don't care. I'm surrounded by peeps who persecute me cause I'm diff. My friend, Harolds parents have admitted it to Harold that that is the reason that they don't like me. Really to tell you the truth I wish there was someone in this middel-of-nowhere town that's like me. All I want is to be you peeps friends and you'll never get to know me if you don't open your eyes and pay attention to something every now and then. Like I said before thank you for your comments. Your opinion, and yall are the only peeps I know who have that opinion. I'm really not as immature as you think, acctually I've been told I'm so mature it's scary. Yes again I can't spell but that's because I didn't bother to try.

Thank you Dee6389, Thank you for your support.

imported_Poisoned Eternity
03-18-2004, 11:31 AM
Just one thing:

<<Yall took what I wrote and put a different meaning to it.>>

That is a readers interpretation. Get used to it. Everyone interprets something they read in a different manner, everyone gets a different feel from the poem. Simple as that. Not hard to understand.

Okay, I can't help this one.

You are a Christian, yet you hate religion? That's a big ass contradiction. Sure, you can be a big time believer in god and still hate religion, but to be a christian, you have to practice CHRISTIANITY. A religion.

<<I'm really not as immature as you think. >>

I'll believe it when I see it, thank you.

Owl_Fox_Drake
03-18-2004, 10:05 PM
Heh... They have a good point. To be a Christian, you got to practice the Christian religion. Christianity is a religion by definition. You can't be part of a religion and not believe in religion. That comment sorta didn't make sense, either. You don't BELIEVE in religion. Religion just... is, I suppose. It's a term used to refer to organized beliefs. ((I just now looked up religion)) Anyone who has a set of beliefs and practices, whether personalized or institutionalized, follows a religion. And your explanation that the poem was just an expression of your attitude, then your trying too hard to throw said attitude in our faces. And that whole, you don't like cheerleaders and that's why it sounds like a cheer... Also didn't quite make sense. If you didn't like something you'd not make your art sound/look like it. I know how you feel, with the small nowhere town and wishing you had someone like you. I've spent my last four years in small nowhere towns where no one is like me. I deal with it, and tell the people who antagonize me to back off. Persecuting you because you're different? In truth, I think everyone is just giving their opinions on the work you posted. A risk you took by posting the work. Technically speaking ((I love my dictionary ^.^)), that is not persecution.

Sorry about this, V, but I gotta put my comment in, and some of these guys have good points.

~Owl

snails182
03-19-2004, 04:10 AM
Actually, being a christian is loving The Father, Son, and The Holy Ghost with all your heart, mind, and soul. It is also believing that Jesus died for us and that the only way for one to get to heaven is through him. And no, you can believe this and still not believe in religion. What you guys don't realize is that christianity is a belief of what I stated above. The religion of christianity is the organized groups of people that form churches and denominations of this belief. Although, it would have be easier to say that she/he is a christian and a non-denominational one at that.

Owl_Fox_Drake
03-19-2004, 12:51 PM
... No, snails. Bad. You didn't pay close attention to my lecture. Religion is any set of beliefs, wether personal or institutionalized. Christianity, in the sense of all the churches and congregations and in the sense of the belief, is a religion either way. What you are refering to as Christianity the religion is the organized religion. Your belief in the Trinity and Jesus dying for you is just as much a religion as my belief that deity is just the driving force of nature and that all the names attached to said force ((Ra, Isis, Zeus, Thor, etc)) are just different aspects of said driving force. A personal set of beliefs... Do you pray? Celebrate religious holidays? ...and a set of practices. Which, by definition in Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary, is a religion.

Owl_Fox_Drake
03-19-2004, 01:09 PM
>.< I hate it when this happens... Ok, if anyone has not yet understood, reread both my posts a hundred times. I resign from explaining to you what a religion is.

snails182
03-19-2004, 04:47 PM
A personal set of beliefs... Do you pray? Celebrate religious holidays? ...and a set of practices. Lol, thanks for helping in proving my point Drake. Like I said a christian is someone who believes that Jesus was the savior and Gods son, or God fully man. And like you said "A personal set of beliefs... Do you pray? Celebrate religious holidays? ...and a set of practices." PRACTICES, um I think I can believe Jesus is my savior and the Son of God without practicing things like christmas and easter so um ya you CAN be a christian w/o practicing or believing in religion.

Crazy V
03-20-2004, 11:23 AM
Oh please all of you, I can't read these anymore. I said you took my reply and put it in diff words. The reason it sounds like a cheer is because of my attitude, not I wanted it to sound like a cheer. I define religion differently sorry for the contraversy. If I go by the worlds def. I would practice religion and that would be a hell of a stupid contradiction. Thank you for looking it up. Christianity to me is not a religion but something I must do. I have to worship the God that brought me about. The Father the Son and the Holy Ghost praise the lord. It's my perpose in like to please God. And I wasn't trying to throw it in your face, no, not at all, but the peeps around my town. Thank you for your comments.

UnicornDream
03-20-2004, 05:19 PM
Christianity is a religion...you can't change the definition of what a religion is. It just IS.

That is the equivalent of saying "Oh, this thing I am typing on is not a keyboard...I define keyboard differently than most people. This is a tree stump, yes, a typing tree stump, attached to my PC."

Love to break it to you: the keyboard is still a keyboard, regardless of one's delusions. Christianity is still a religion, regardless of your... delusions.

Owl_Fox_Drake
03-20-2004, 06:23 PM
Hate to say it... Wait, no, I love to say it. Told you so. That "Christianity is not a religion it is something I must do." is the kinda bull you expect to hear from those fanatical twits who are convinced what they practice is the only truth and everyone else are just misguided ffools.

snails182
03-20-2004, 11:54 PM
Funny, I take it that neither one of you are christians and you try to justify us? Do as you will, I'm outta.

UnicornDream
03-21-2004, 01:42 AM
...Try to justify what, exactly? It doesn't matter in this situation if I am a devout Christian or a diehard atheist: Christianity is a religion. An apple is a fruit, Abercrombie is a clothing brand, root beer is a soda, Christianity is a religion. That can't even be debated, that is it's defined classification.

snails182
03-21-2004, 04:31 AM
Dude, I get it! Like UnicornDream has it nailed in her brain that she has to be right kinda thing right? I get it! I know a lot of people like you! Sh*t I get it, UnicornDream just CAN'T be WRONG, undebatable, defined, bitchy classification kind of thing. Gotcha!;)

Crazy V
03-21-2004, 08:48 AM
Geeee . . . thanks alot Robert, you're a real chipper. I define alot of things different. Snails don't get mad. I posted for comments (instead I got slottered) but I'm used to it by now. Snails, you have gotta ask yourself, what would Jesus do? No not just that slogon but really what would Jesus do? The Bible tells us to turn the other cheek. I would love to get mad and start saying all these things in my head but I'm not. I've got a hot temper but I try to controle it. Don't let peeps get ya down. Thanks again for the comments.

Owl_Fox_Drake
03-21-2004, 01:47 PM
I just hate it when people flaunt the fact that they love to leave their brains in glass jars on their desks. There are some things that you just can't define differently from the norm because that is just what they are, and, as Alice so beautifully put it, it's like calling an apple an orange or a keyboard a typing tree stump. Sorry if it seems like I'm trying to be cruel, I'm not. I'm just pointing out that you're wrong.

Crazy V
03-21-2004, 02:41 PM
I may be wrong to you, but to me that's the way I see it. No I don't think you're trying to be cruel but man I'm so sick of her slautering my work. Aren't I intiteled to defend it. She seems to be the only person who disses my work every time. Always haten on it. I'm just so figgin tired of it!

imported_Shady_chick7
03-21-2004, 03:10 PM
Chris·ti·an·i·ty
n.
1. The Christian religion, founded on the life and teachings of Jesus.
2. Christians as a group; Christendom.
3. The state or fact of being a Christian.
4. pl. Chris·ti·an·i·ties A particular form or sect of the Christian religion: the Christianities of antiquity.

:moo:

Crazy V
03-21-2004, 03:48 PM
ummmm . . . thank you.

The personal dictionary of Violet's crazy head.

Christianity - Praiseing God wholey and completely and giving your life to him!

Religion - A poor excuse for being lazy.

But that's just my own stupid thoughts.

They are not logically correct.

Owl_Fox_Drake
03-21-2004, 04:04 PM
That makes no sense what so ever. Explain, please, how religion is a poor excuse for being lazy? Not logically correct is an understatement. Who used religion as an excuse to be lazy about what?

snails182
03-21-2004, 04:12 PM
let's just drop the issue. and drake, that is for the same reason why my definition and many other christians believe that the true definition of christian is hippocrit. I spelled that wrong.

snails182
03-21-2004, 04:13 PM
hypocrite*

21CenturyJester
03-21-2004, 04:15 PM
An argument about religion is nothing to do with the actual poem.

Closed.